Tony

Remember Club Dub? That seems like two decades ago at this point.

Can’t believe his slash line over this season. What an offensive beast he turned into during the 2nd half.

Man, after all these years, you still just suck at this. You’d think you'd wise up just a little bit over time. The White Sox ran away and hid from the division during the 2021 season. It was unlike most other seasons we are used to. The Sox bullpen, at times, was a strength for this team but also inconsistent. The Sox went out and got Ryan Tepera but over the following few days, teams across the league really bolstered their stretch rosters and the Sox decided to make a strength even stronger. Craig Kimbrel was far and away the best relief pitcher on the market. You can disagree, but you'd also be wrong. It was a guy many of us were asking for, and Hahn confirmed him and Williams had their eye on him since May as one of their ideal acquisitions. Now, see if you can stay with me here, this is where it gets a little nuanced, and I fear I may confuse you. The playoffs are more important than the regular season. I know it's hard to fathom, but the impact a dominant reliever can have in the playoffs is much greater than in the regular season, especially when recently we've seen starters get pulled incredibly early in postseason games. If Kimbrel is lights out this postseason and contributes meaningful, impactful innings on the way to the World Series.....I don't give a FUCK about a game he blew in the middle of August. I also won't give a fuck what Nicky Slapdick does for the Cubs in 2024 either. I hope he does great. But he is never going to be a true impact player and became expendable while sitting on the IL when the Sox were chasing a World Series. So yes, in conclusion.....you and Ron can have a circlejerk over Madrigal and Kimbrel struggling with the Sox. You hated the trade from the moment it was announced and won't hesitate to tell everyone the moment his name gets brought up. But I'm not willing to grade a trade when history is still being written. Kimbrel still has the opportunity to make a major impact for this team when it matters most. If he does that, the trade will be a win for hopefully both teams involved. If he shits the bed when it matters most, then it was a bad acquisition. But I'm also not going to hang Hann and Co. out to dry for acquiring the best available RP on the market and using an injured player as the main trade piece during their World Series window. That's what I want my GM to do.

greg, I'll play your game. But I doubt you respond, but that's what you do. 1. What evidence do they have his "symptoms" are from the vaccine? How long ago did he get the vaccine? Because seeing as it's been around for almost 8 or 9 months now, I have serious doubts she or her "hubby" were ever going to get vaccinated. They've had plenty of opportunities and seem like they are looking for a reason to tell people they won't get it. It sucks he's gotten "sick" since getting the vaccine. But he made the right decision in the grand scheme of things, given the options we all have to face. 2. I will again use the seat belt argument. Let's say this son was killed in a car accident. He was wearing his seatbelt. But the sister in law and husband have always felt like their personal freedoms are more important, so they've always been on the fence about wearing their seatbelt. Now because of the accident, this pushed them over the edge, they aren't wearing it anymore because their son died even though he had his belt on. That doesn't make them right. Every piece of data will tell you that when you're driving, wearing a seat belt is safer than not having one on. And having a random, anecdotal piece of evidence that has personally affected you doesn't make your opinion better than science or data. 3. A dozen people have already said it, but I'll say it in a slightly different way. If they don't want to get vaccinated, they are able to make that decision. They are within their right, currently in the US, to not take the vaccine for this incredibly deadly and infectious virus. It's the wrong decision, but people make wrong decisions everyday. But when/if they get COVID, they are fully responsible for whatever hand they get dealt. Our country (including Donald Trump's Operation Warp Speed) have created a free, highly accessible vaccine that has been proven to be incredibly affective against the COVID-19 virus. If you make the decision not to take it, whatever happens to you after that is on YOU, and quite frankly I have no compassion for anyone at this point who is still unvaccinated and has access to the vaccine. Because you aren't doing everything you can to avoid getting and spreading this virus.

WE HAVE A POSTER COMPARING ELOY AND CEASE TO MADRIGAL AND HEUER

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It's ridiculous to grade it now, but consider the source.

This is shocking levels of stupid, even for you. What you just said was “Listen, I guess I understand seatbelts save lives, but 43 people still died in car accidents when they were wearing seatbelts. So I understand why people just wouldn’t wear your seatbelt all together, because it doesn’t totally save you.” You know why people aren’t civil anymore? Because of dumb shit like this. The vaccine isn’t full proof. No vaccine is. But it goes to great lengths to protect you. It should be an incredibly easy decision for those with even the slightest ounce of brain power. But we’ve seen countless times we are running dangerously low on supply of that right now.

Lemming totally nailed it in this thread.

Honestly, I’m not even ready to say Fields looks unprepared. It almost is like Nagy isn’t ready/doesn’t know what to do with him.

That’s a fair point, but if Fields is even decent he should stick at starter. If he struggles, everyone will know it, including him, and it should make sense to go back to Dalton is he’s really that bad. Fields being good solves all these issues

My problem with the Bears statements is what seems like this backroom promise to Dalton they can’t break. Andy Dalton has been fine in his very short time with the Bears. But the Bears don’t owe him anything. They’ve invested a ton into Fields. Clearly they feel like it’s time for Fields to play, rather than Foles, who is now the No. 2. I think that’s the right call. My point all along has been simply saying “Justin Fields is going to get the start Sunday. Whenever Andy comes back, we’re going to examine how the play of our QB’s have been up to that point and make a decision.” Is simple and should keep everyone happy. Instead it’s “When Andy is healthy he is our starting QB.” Why? What if Fields has three straight weeks of 300 yard, 3 TD’s games? Is Dalton going to be your starter in Week 6? My guess is “Hell no” so then why make that statement now?

Wait, are we to assume you'll be in attendance for the Sox playoffs this year? ??

This is a very good question

Wait, you're blaming the media here??? * I just heard the audio from Nagy. It was a full statement with no questions from the media.

This is where they just can't get out of their own way. How hard is it to say " Right now, Justin is starting for the Chicago Bears. Let’s see what happens with that, see how Andy is progressing, and we’ll assess everything week by week."

Weird you never answered my question.

Just answer this question. Since you've been here, I'd estimate 90% of your posts have been about how this team sucks, how they won't advance in the playoffs, and arguing with anyone who disagrees with you. So the question is....why are you here? Why are you taking time out of your day to post on a White Sox message board, a team you think isn't very good and isn't going to do anything in the postseason? Why are you spending time here?

You guys serious?

I really haven't given the Sox a ton of attention on a nightly basis.....but it's hard to ignore this team is going through more than just "the dog days" at this point. They really do seem to be limping to the finish line, and I have serious questions if they can just flip the switch.

Am I crazy to say that I kind of agree with Nagy here? Preparing for Fields vs. preparing for Dalton as a defense is two totally different things, so why let the opponent know on Monday who is starting? It's a small advantage you have to play with. I know the media and fans won't like it, but I get it.

And by the way, when you say "today" in this regard... So it's not like vaccine mandates are some new concept. The problem is social media wasn't a thing in 1977.

You put together some really good stats and info that tell a very interesting story. At the end of a long season, I'm sure guys like that are always looking for new angles or a potential story. You should DM him with some of the numbers you posted, and just ask him if he can look into it more with some of the responsible parties involved. My bet is you get a response.

So I challenge you on your points, the guy that is telling us he's smarter than all of us...and your response is to de-activate your account. Got it.