Tony

SOMEONE GET SOME CROW

We just agree to disagree then. I just don't see that optimism. Heading into next season, the 12-4 Bears will have been 3 years ago. Since that season, the defensive core has gotten progressively older, and worse. With them picking 20 this year....I just don't see real reasons to expect drastic change on either side of the ball. And without drastic change....they are a fairly bad football team that beats up on teams worse than them.

No offense Ross, but a few posts ago you called fans "meatballs" for some of their plans....but when I challenged your plan, the response I was given was basically "Yeah I haven't given much thought to my plan, I just don't want my team to rebuild next year, so maybe they can sign some guys that used to be good and hope for the best." That's fine to take that position, but when you're challenging everyone else in this thread to present opinions rather than just complaining, you better bring something better to the table than "I don't know." I'm not the biggest Bears fan in the world. I understand for those of you that are, you don't want to see this defense blown up. I GET IT. But as an observer....I just don't see a way out for this franchise as currently constructed. I don't see a quick fix. I don't see a way to "re-tool" on the fly. Even if Mitch ended up being great say in 2018, and he's turned into your franchise QB, the window with this current unit would already starting to inch closer to closing. Guys are getting older and more importantly, much more expensive. It's easy to stay competitive with a great QB, but the clock was already ticking on this group, and the reality is they never capitalized on having that world-class D like they did in 2018. That 12-4 season was the year. In your heart of hearts.......if you can't figure out a way to get this team to a Super Bowl contender in the next two seasons.......what's the point? You want more of these seasons?

So with Cam Newton as a starter for the Bears in 2021, a guy that posted a 82.9 QB rating in New England (Mitch had a 93.5 rating in 2020 for reference).....what is Cam doing to this team that Mitch wasn't able to? How much better are the Bears going to be in 2021? What are they competing for? Because if it isn't for the Super Bowl in the next two seasons....I don't know what you're doing this exercise for.

I just disagree with that when it's talking about drafting your franchise QB at No. 2. Not only did Pace make a historically bad choice (Mitch didn't have his 5th year option picked up, Mahomes has already won an MVP & Super Bowl. Watson is one of 4 QB's with a career passer rating over 100 (as it currently stands.) On top of it, not only was the selection bad, but the "going all-in" comment comes from moving up one selection to draft Mitch, trading away two 3rd's and 4th. I've said before and I'll continue to say I admire a GM that has conviction and goes after the guys he wants. That's the type of GM I want.......but when you have those strong convictions and make those bold moves.....they have a higher flame out rate. That's why they are bold moves.........and it failed miserably. Again, the entire franchise plan was centered around Mitch. The 52 man roster was built around the idea of having a "cheap" QB at the helm surrounded by a veteran defense that could take the pressure off the offense. The entire franchise doesn't work if the QB doesn't deliver. And he hasn't. Full stop. So I can't just say that the decision to draft Trubisky is just "one" mistake....it's so much bigger than just one stand alone mistake. When Pace made that move, he had to know the possible ramifications, both positive and negative, that came with that decision. Lastly, Mitch is now a FA. He could come back, he could leave. The Bears could go out and find another starter. They could draft a QB. They could just play Foles.....the point is.....I don't want Pace making that decision. He hasn't earned the right to make that decision, based on his previous track record. Just my opinion.

Again.....the Bears situation just isn't complicated. I know they are # 1 in this town and sports radio can't keep saying the same thing over and over.....but Pace built this entire window around the idea they have a high-priced defense with a QB on a rookie deal....that's how you make this work 2018-2021. It didn't. They picked the wrong guy with the No. 2 overall pick. For the 100th time....when you go all-in and bust out....you have to leave the table.

Your solution involved signing a starting QB, that doesn’t have a name. That sort of seems like the easy way out without offering a solution to me....

So how about you answer a question. You don’t want a rebuild. You want everyone back. Fine. What can this team realistically do the next two years? How do they compete for a Super Bowl in the next two years? Lay it out for us. Because If they can’t, blow it up now. Why wait two years?

That check down by Mitch there is his entire career in a nutshell. He just can’t process things quick enough.

But even if Twitter was that...the masses clearly aren’t using it, or don’t want to.

The government didn't limit anyone's access to communications when it comes to Trump not being able to post on a private platform like Twitter. And if that's what you want, I have a hunch that a BUNCH of Trump fans aren't going to like the idea of the government being able to tell private business owners how they should operate. Don't they want less government oversight, not more?

This.

But as others have said, it has zero ties to any sort of government and serves no infrastructure/utility need. I'm sick of millions arguing that speech doesn't have consequence. That their rights are SO infringed because someone told them their hate-filed rhetoric isn't accepted all places. In the middle of their shift at Burger King, if they started telling customers in their drive-thru to "Go fuck themselves" they would be fired. And not a single person would say Burger King was unjust to fire that person. Yes, that idiot will not be arrested for their speech, but they will have to face other consequences for their actions. I don't understand why this is so difficult to comprehend for so many.

Thank you. Right now it’s my biggest pet peeve, drives me fucking NUTS.

It’s going to be “interesting” to see what happens with him, because I don’t think he wants to actually “be” President again, to Ron’s point, he wants to still do rally’s, and he wants to still grift and steal peoples money. But I’m also curious to see if his “base” moves on to someone else in a few years...

And just to avoid any confusion....the same people saying it was Antifa were saying those who did it are Patriots and they have every right to do what they did. So..Antifa good?

I texted a few buddies like 20 minutes the worst of what was happening and said “watch these guys blame it on ANTIFA lol” and I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised they actually tried to do it. I mean, it just defies logic after all of Trump’s rhetoric, all of the posts on Parler, all the threats.....and of course all the actual carnage that happened yesterday.....it couldn’t have been “Patriots” it had to be Antifa. I legit had family posting on Facebook pictures of that Shaman Q guy but most of the image cropped trying to say he was Antifa and that they’ve seen him before...except the full picture has him holding a Q sign and the reason they have seen him before is they’ve watched Stop The Steal rallies. Its all SO stupid.

Say bye for about a week, he'll always be back. Always.

Post more.

Maybe I spoke too soon.

If the GOP wants to save their party, they should take a hard stance against any support of Trump. It really shouldn't be that difficult, seeing as our nation flat out rejected the entire family just a a few months ago. Totally cut ties, make it a somewhat bi-partisan effort. They've got one shot at it, and this it is. But it will never happen.

It's so weird to post something like that where it takes 3 seconds and a simple set of eyes to prove it wrong, lol.

And he's still following Trump...

I'm about 99.9% sure that's Pence and his wife....