Tony

I like Justin. I think his development has been stunted with the Bears many times. Probably has a different career trajectory with a well-run franchise. But to your point, the reality is we've had 35 starts with him and have a very good idea of who he is as a Chicago Bear. They are going to need more out of the QB position if they want to win playoff games. I am not an avid watcher of college football, if Drake Maye was walking down the street next to me I wouldn't have a clue. But rookie QB's can be successful in Year 1, as we have seen multiple times. Drafting someone at 1 doesn't mean they are punting on the season. And they would be absolutely be investing into the team for the long term. Keeping Fields doesn't do that, because by trading out of No. 1 and keeping Fields, you still haven't found your franchise QB and they're just kicking the can down the road.

I don’t know how these things go together. Let’s remove Fields first season from the equation, let’s just go with the last two years. What has he shown you to tell you he is going to make a major leap, and he’ll lead this team over the Packers and other quality teams? The Bears can’t be ok with “ok” They have a super unique opportunity with the No. 1 pick, and you say “Well if it doesn’t work out after next year, go get a QB.” They won’t have a better opportunity than this.

With another loss to GB where the game wasn’t really all that close, if I’m Poles I’m taking this incredibly unique opportunity he created for himself (and deserves credit for) to get in a new staff and QB. You know the ceiling here. And it’s not a Super Bowl

God they played like s%*# today.

Yeah that's horseshit, and CONTINUES to happy every week

If anything, this game was a really good microcosm of the problems with the Bears. - Fields has not had enough games where he is the main reason they won the game. They aren't losing today because of Fields, but he's done nothing to help them - Has been absolutely no pash rush today, like even a little bit. That's a talent and scheme issue, and both need to be seriously addressed - The WR core still sucks. There needs to be another option out there outside of DJ, there just isn't a ton of talent for Fields to throw to - The offensive line has been BAD. You've got two legit starters in Jenkins and Wright, everyone else is just a body, and multiple guys on the OL are plain bad

It's still the most simple element in sports. There is no such thing as a good secondary with no pash rush.

Fields has to hit that, that camera angle was perfect, threw behind him

Not at all. It’s been your “normal” Fields day

Will bet you $1000 that does not happen

Probably, but also the easiest position to fill, don’t think it should be a major concern

Amazing what a QB can do with a clean pocket play after play

What is this?!? https://x.com/stevencheah/status/1744126379128414212?s=46&t=Nd9oJCYs4TMp8_32NrPiMA

So ready to be done with Eddie Jackson

Gotta make them pay for that (I’m sure they won’t haha)

It does seem like this game should be a much different score at this point. Luckily the Bears O has been on the field for a good amount of time. They have a few 3 and outs and it could get out of hand quick

Just like the Lions have been a good matchup for the Bears, the Packers are an awful one (what’s new?) Jordan Love is also the real deal, dude has looked great for 2/3 of the season

There have been like 200 shitty snaps from the Bears center position this season

The best organization in football traded a kings ransom to have the right to draft Trey Lance. It doesn’t always work.

This is stupid, as neither of things help the Bears in the short and long term If you believe the reports out there, and from what I was told on this site by MANY, today doesn’t matter, so the results shouldn’t change based on what transpires today.

Let’s say you were a fan of the Padres, or just a random MLB team. In the last year, if your favorite team hired 5-6 key front office roles, both manager and executive roles, all from the White Sox, how would you feel about it? Not great, right? You’d hope your favorite team would target people in organizations that have shown some signs of success over the last 6–7 years, right?

A little? Don’t care if it’s paper pushing or not. The organization got rid of Williams and Hahn probably a decade too late, and their replacements are the architects of another one of the worst franchises in sports. It’s a joke

Here is what would really blow Bears fans brains up. They trade down in the first, keep Fields, and draft a QB in Round 2

Everyone is sort of saying the same thing, and it's what I was also saying last night. If Poles believes one of Williams or Maye could be a true franchise QB, and if he's right....then it's absolutely the right call to draft one of them at No. 1. The team as currently constructed, today, is probably an 8-9 win team next year. If you trade the No. 1 overall, given the salary cap the Bears have, plus draft capital, 10 wins seems very possible next year WITH Fields and this current group. But that still comes with the limitations Fields brings on the field, as well as him being in Year 4 of his contract. I see both sides and will accept either path, because these are not bad problems to have.

What people get sucked into is thinking this argument is just about Fields the QB. It's obviously so much more than that. Of course there are the meatheads that think he walks on water, but thus far in his career he's been incredibly average, and the odds favor that trend continuing. You're going off of nothing more than faith if your argument is he's going to take multiple leaps to become one of the 5 best QB's in the league. The point is it's far from the only thing you have to evaluate in this situation. I truly don't know what the right call is, and realistically speaking no one does because we simply don't have the evidence of what any of the rookie QB's will do in the NFL. You then have the argument of by keeping Fields, you're able to supply yourself ample draft capital to plug holes that are currently on this roster and ideally make them a 10 win team. And based on the way this season has ended, that seems very possible. In my eyes, it comes down to the boom or bust element, and how risky Poles want to be. There is much more risk in trading Fields, because of the unknown that will be replacing him. You also don't have as many picks to play with in the 2024 and 2025 draft. If you hit on the QB at the top of the draft, you may not need as many picks to play with because you found your franchise QB on a rookie deal. Given what Poles has done with the team thus far, I'll support the decision he makes. I'm not in any "camp" one way or another on this one, and I think if you have your flag planted firmly in one the camps, you aren't understanding the true picture.