Tony

Why do you care about how much a team spends, specifically on a manager? It doesn't count against the tax. Do you believe the Cubs giving him 8 million a year will preclude them from signing a player? If not, then as a fan, how could you be even mildly upset the team you cheer for went out and hired without question the best manager in the market?

You didn't answer my question. Why wouldn't you want your team to spend 40 million on a manager?

Why?

One of the many things that has always amazed me about you is the belief MLB is only played within the central time zone, and anyone that plays for teams on the coasts don’t exist.

Rebuild is the wrong term. To rebuild, you are trying to reconstruct something that was already there. This is a start from scratch. It won't work because Jerry is the owner, among other reasons, but there is no core, very little to trade, and a FO that doesn't seem to take winning seriously. What's left? Pain.

1. This is probably the right move 2. Gun to my head, TA has a few really good seasons left in him, but it wouldn’t happen here.

My question, as usual with the Sox: Was Paul Janish even in the conversation for any other MLB team to take any sort of development role, let alone the head of player development for an entire organization?

That’s like a 50+ pick difference, and the Bears still have to sign him. Yikes

This is amazing

I really believe if Vaughn was a part of the Braves, Rangers, Brewers, etc.....he's a much different player today than he is with the Sox.

So then what is "ridiculous?"

Please expand on this. Are you somehow arguing Jerry is....a good owner?

It's hilarious that you think this is a Brooks Boyer thing.

It's just not a recipe for long-term success. It's a very inefficient offense that will lead to more issues than wins, IMO. So many things can go wrong on each play, and the longer the offense is on the field, the more plays that are executed, the higher the risk for a big sack, injury, or turnover. Good offenses need those big chunk plays, not the dink and dunk that we saw on Sunday. Now, I totally understand this was his first start, and he did well. I have no reason to not want Bagent to succeed and maybe he can. But as others have mentioned, we've seen this so many times in Chicago, history is not on his side.

If Bagent puts up like 7 or 8 wins or something, I can somewhat buy in and build a team around everything else, basically the 49ers plan around Purdy…but everything else has to be near perfect in order for it to work. Finding the “guy” at QB should still be the No. 1 priority.

So just continue on with Bears tradition? We’ve learned NOTHING? Hard pass. Your statement of “you can win Fields or Bagent” might be true against the Raiders or Panthers, but if the goal is to build a team able to win the Super Bowl every season, we’d all need to see a ton more from Bagent to give us any sense if he was really the guy.

God this thread is depressing.

In 594 PA's this season he had an OBP of .296, and a slugging of .383 They weren't wrong.

He's not playing, basically 99.9% on that.

Manning -Colts Brady - Patriots Mahomes - KC Favre/Rodgers -GB Montana/Young - 49ers Marino - Dolphins Elway - Broncos Brees - Saints Big Ben - Steelers Aikman - Cowboys Warner - Rams Wilson - Seahawks McNabb - Eagles Rivers - Chargers I’m not even going to get into the 60’s/70’s which would expand this list, but you’re talking at least half the league. For as long as the Bears have been around, it’s an embarrassment what they have subjected fans to. Justin Jefferson would be the Bears all time leading WR at this point in his career….He’s 24

Last night was a great W, Vlassic had one of his best games as a pro.

I don't think that's the case either. When the Getz hire was made, Kim Ng wasn't available. It's a very easy spin for any organization with $0.02 cents of PR skill. "The Marlins loss is the White Sox gain and we're incredibly excited to welcome back Kim Ng to the White Sox family." It shows a willingness to get better, be aggressive, etc. They would look good. And while Getz would be knocked down a peg, he's a big boy.

Eh, I don't really think it is for someone like Jerry. He has built a foundation for himself where his 6th generation of offspring won't ever have to work, he doesn't really report to anyone, and he's pushing 90. If I had all those things going for me, why would I care about what Joe Blow on the street cares about me for?