Tony

This is sort of what I was saying. This is still on Justin...but something is off here.

I was thinking about this last night. The play everyone is talking about from yesterday, where he had great pocket protection, two WR open and the RB open in the flat...everything was right there for him and he ended up taking a sack. Now, that's on Justin first and foremost. Not going to blame anyone else. However, Fields had less than 5 rushing yards yesterday. That's insane. It leads me to think the coaching staff is giving him very specific instructions, and he's forcing things. He's not able to do what comes natural to him, and it's getting in his head.

Can't argue with that and I'm not going around calling him "King Poles" and such. He has a lot to prove. But as we've seen across the NFL, when a new regime takes over, it's basically a given you're giving them 5 years to put a program together. Takes a year or so to get rid of the crap from the last group, then you start to build the foundation in Year 2-3, in Year 4-5 you better start competing. Poles is in Year 1.5. Now, I expected them to at the very least to be .500 this season. I thought a wild card was best case, but not impossible. Obviously that looks a lot different now, but I don't think that's on Poles, I would put him pretty far down the list right now. If I was in his shoes, given the situation, I gotta see if I have something in Fields. It tells me how I'm going to proceed moving forward. If he would have moved him in the offseason, you're trading an unknown asset. I know many had already made up their mind about Fields, but he was given a very shitty hand to this point. But the excuses stopped this season. Poles gave him the proper tools to work with. It's Year 3 now for Fields. This is it. And right or wrong, we're going to find out if Fields can play NFL QB for a contending team. Seems like he's sending us a pretty clear message after Week 2, but you still gotta find out.

You’re not presenting solutions either, you’re just saying “it was the wrong move.” What should Poles have done that was better than keeping Fields? Who was the trade partner? What were they going to give up where it made sense to get value? It was a calculated risk. If Fields was the guy, everything gets easier. Now you have two firsts to really upgrade your roster. Now you have use both of those to possibly get 1 player, and you still need to find a trade partner. But at least Poles got the assets to give himself the option in case Fields didn’t work out. He took a risk, and it was the right one at the time. He’s put a good amount of talent around Fields, and now they’re really be able to find out if he’s the guy or not. Given the talent on the roster last year, there was no way to really understand who he was. Tom Brady wouldn’t have won Jack s%*# with the WR/RB depth last year.

I don’t love the feeling when you’re absolutely right, but when you’re right…you’re right

Right, I can def listen to the argument they should have taken Carter, but I thought Wright made sense as well. But I still want to give Poles 2-3 years to see what he puts together

So with that in mind, what was Poles supposed to do this off-season?

It was still a good trade. You didn’t know what you had in Fields. You got DJ Moore, along with two first rounders available to you in 2024. If Fields wasn’t the guy, it means the Bears are going to have a shitty record, so both picks should be fairly high. We also don’t know what the market was like for Fields.

I heard that too, and laughed

It's amazing how many times we've seen this play out, but as the game goes on, the offense gets worse and worse. No pace, no flow, just an absolute mess. Doesn't matter who is here, who is in the Front Office..it's just the Bears

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1703480280592335280?s=46&t=Nd9oJCYs4TMp8_32NrPiMA

They did that already

Had all the time in the world. Not a line issue, not a WR issue. It's there for him, and it's still not happening.

That drive was such a perfect summation of him thus far. Makes some great throws, then looks like a high schooler. Those last few plays make me think he's just not the guy

No. They will be bad. But they will have a number of young players that should be major contributors to the next "great" team. And Bedard should give most fans a reason to watch every night.

Those are the least surprising comments ever. Anyone with even a slight sliver of interest in the White Sox know that's been the case for decades.

What an ending

Been a real bad 24 hours for NY Football

Jack?

What's sad is this isn't even a everything the team needs, you're still missing items.

Was at the PJ show tonight, very cool moment. But Seabrook should be up there too

He's probably in line for a 1 year prove it deal at this point. If he can somehow put together a decent 2024, he'll only be 30 and could sign a large 3-4 year deal...but not after this season.

Expect to be disappointed

I mean, you've been around for a while. Has there ever been a shred of evidence to tell us that's not EXACTLY what Jerry's plan has always been?

lol, god that would be perfect. He's perfect for what they're doing out in LAA