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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 3m3 minutes ago Brian Bilek Retweeted Josh Nelson The #WhiteSox will get another outfielder. That's a promise. I'm not talking Sands/Fields type either. Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 1m1 minute ago If #WhiteSox don't sign Cespedes/Upton it won't be for lack of willingness to go to a fourth year. They have the upper hand in the market. Isn't that statement exactly the opposite of what he just reported a few minutes ago? All I know is that I will be pissed if Avi is the starting RF on Opening Day.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 03:45 PM) Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 2m2 minutes ago .@Ken_Rosenthal just reported to @EliHershkovich that the #WhiteSox are firm on their stance of not going over 3 years with Cespedes/Upton. Then this thread can be deleted. I f***ing hate the Sox sometimes. They're one good hitter away from being a legit contender and of course they won't go for it. SMDH.

Here's a really outside the box idea: sign Desmond to play SS and Alexei to play RF. Alexei is most well known as a SS as we all know, but he did play a bit of outfield in '08. As far as I'm concerned, he'd be an upgrade over Avi in RF and his defense would most likely be adequate enough.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) How about this...trade Tim Anderson and Danish for Dickerson and then sign Desmond No thanks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Fun fact: He's played in one major league game...for the Tigers. He replaced....wait for it....Yoenis Cespedes. mind = blown

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) If the Sox are going to wait as Merkin suggests, then I hope they go ahead and grab Jackson ASAP. Jackson? As in Austin Jackson?

WOO! Who needs Cespedes when this guy was available?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 6m6 minutes ago Everyone freaking out about the #WhiteSox supposedly not willing to go more than three years should take a step back. Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 5m5 minutes ago The #WhiteSox are never straightforward with anything financial in the media. They never have been and they shouldn't be. Discretion is key. Brian Bilek ‏@ChiSoxraBBit 4m4 minutes ago Why would KC give Gordon four years with a 5th year option if the #WhiteSox were only offering three years? They wouldn't. This is promising news.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 11:13 AM) Just did a twitter check. Nightengale tweeted the White Sox 3 year max thing on New Year's day. Moore said the Royals and Gordon got close on New Year's Eve. So this came out right about the time the Sox realized they had no shot at Gordon. That's an interesting point. I don't know if that's relevant with the Sox's negotiations with Cespedes or not, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I wonder if a 3 year/$90 million deal would work. The Sox could pay him $20 million in 2016 and $35 million in 2017/2018. That's a huge payroll commitment for 1 guy in the last 2 years of the deal, but the duration of the contract isn't too bad. Plus it saves money for 2016 while Danks and LaRoche are still on the books.

I just don't understand the fascination of the people on here that want the Sox to acquire other teams garbage. The Sox have too many garbage players as it is, there is no reason to trade for more of them.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 7, 2016 -> 08:30 AM) Phil Rogers was just on hot stove. Just reiterated the 3 year deal sentiment. Said we could be outbid for him by a team like Baltimore or Detroit. Did mention upton on a 2 year deal. Just get it done Hahn! Let's go buddy. I don't see us getting it done for 3 years, but if they did that'd be fine. I'm sorry, but the Sox aren't getting Cespedes on a 3 year deal unless the AAV was SKY high. Like $30+ million a season high.

I will seriously cry tears of joy if the Sox can sign him.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 06:42 PM) Today, 6 for $125 mil Today ain't over yet.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Start getting ready to have that thought all the time my friend. I would imagine everyone on here has these thoughts as you watch yourself age in comparison to players. Age 16-18: You start seeing those real young prospects and have the moment you just did where you are shocked that these guys are younger than you, but have so much potential. Age 19-22: You start seeing some of the superstar prospects make appearances in the major leagues and you start to wonder why you never were better at baseball. Age 23-26: You see most of the guys who make it to MLB come up and it hits you even though it was always obvious. You will never play in the major leagues. You'll stop having daydream fantasies about somehow becoming an MLB player. Age 27-30: You start to think about how the players your age are in their MLB prime. Then you evaluate your own physical condition and question if this is your prime. Age 31-35: You start seeing guys your age who had good careers, but are starting to fizzle out of baseball. You think about how young the new rookies look, even though it felt like just yesterday that they were your age. You'll start saying things like, "Oh to be 23 again". Age 36-40: You rarely see guys your age playing anymore. Than you once again have the feeling that you know you can never be a MLB player. I would imagine it keeps going from there. I bet you get to a point where you have all these feelings again, but instead of about you, you're comparing the player to your kid. This is very true but also very depressing lol QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 06:29 PM) There should be a "Pre-16" stage too where you idolize these players and put them above all else. But when you get older you realize they are just regular people too (only really good at something we used to play as kids). I still idolize select players (Sale, Konerko, Thome, etc), but I don't think I'll do that anymore when I get to the point when I'm older than all the players in MLB. That just seems weird honestly.

Well, the Brewers just signed Chris Carter, so that takes them out of the running for LaRoche (not that they were ever even interested in him in the first place, but some people on here were discussing a possible deal).

I still find it pretty damn cool how one of the best players to ever live spent part of his career (albeit a very short stint) with the Sox.

I'm kind of sad that Seaver's record is broken because he's my dad's all time favorite player.

Would you guys prefer Cespedes by himself or Span/Jackson as a package? Span/Jackson is the more likely outcome it seems like, but Cespedes is much more talented.

I want to see the Orioles sign Upton or Davis right now because that would take them out of the running for Cespedes.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Merkin's article seems very grounded in fact, by the way. We are pushing other teams to spend, and then we'll swoop when something is in our parameters. That seems like a perfect way of putting it. In other words, the Sox will swoop in and nab Austin Jackson when all the good outfielders are taken.

QUOTE (blackmooncreeping @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) I'd much rather sign Austin Jackson or Denard Span than trade anything for a declining Markakis. What sucks about missing on Gordon is he would've slotted perfectly into the 2 hole in front of Jose. Even if we bring in Cespedes or Upton, that still leaves Jose hitting 2nd. He should absolutely be hitting 3rd with a decent OBP guy in front of him and the middle of the order. What about Melky? He's probably the best 2 hole hitter the Sox have. Regardless if the Sox get Cespedes/Upton/Etc, I'd have to imagine that Melky will be hitting 2nd in the lineup ... in the beginning of the season at least.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) The White Sox know what they need as much as anyone. They didn't get Gordon. As long as KC was willing to pay up, they and every other team weren't going to get Gordon. Now it's on to their next target. If that fails, the next one. Eventually they will have another OF. Hahn has admitted as much. Who knows, sometimes, your 2nd or 3rd or 4th choice works out better than choice #1. I would have loved it if they signed Gordon, but it didn't happen. There are other teams that could use his services that didn't sign him either. No need to panic, there are more than a few guys left that give the White Sox a pretty solid upgrade. Well said. However, if the Sox can't get Cespedes or Upton, I will be very disappointed.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 6, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) Huh? He was offered 7/150 so why would he be a moron for rejecting only $15 mill guaranteed? He's not going to get $150 million or more from any other team besides the Orioles IMO.

I am just so surprised that Davis didn't accept the O's offer. He's a moron if he thinks he can get more $$$ somewhere else.