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Where is Desmond going to sign now? I can't think of a logical suitor besides us, and I can't see us doing that.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 02:42 PM) Latos would be nice but how will he cost on a 1 year deal? I'd guess Latos gets around $10-12 million, given how the market for pitching has gone this offseason.

Would Fowler really cost $15 million/year at this point? I'm thinking the cost would be a bit lower.

I'd rather not see Anderson until 2017 at the earliest even if Saladino is struggling. If he's up that better mean he's killing it at AAA (.900 OPS with solid defense), and even then I'd almost still rather keep him down there the whole season.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Strange how people use that when it comes to Fowler, but if it's LaRoche/Dunn/anyone else striking out often, there is no positive. There seems to be a misconception that the White Sox strike out a lot, when it really isn't true. The Sox are 24th in the Majors in strikeouts since the beginning of 2010. Regardless, how often your offense strikes out doesn't really mean that much. In 2014 the Sox were 5th in the MLB in strikeouts, yet scored more runs than the 2011 team, who were 28th in the MLB in strikeouts (difference of 373 strikeouts between the two teams). That's just one example of course, but there are many.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) QO aside, the last thing we need is another strikeout-prone, poor defensive player. A 22% K-rate is above average, but I wouldn't necessarily call it "strikeout-prone". And we didn't strikeout that much in 2015, and that didn't help much. Agree about the defense though.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 12:16 PM) The case for a one-year deal is that next year's FA class is weak, and maybe some of the traditional big spenders get involved. A two-year deal would be interesting with the stacked FA class, not sure that's a great idea. The stacked free agent class is three years from now, not two.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) You can doubt it all you like but Cespedes has been quoted numerous times in reference to him liking NY and the Mets team dating back to August. I'm not saying he is a sure fire bet to sign with the Mets but it seems the Mets are back in the picture, like it or not. My post says I don't doubt that he likes the Mets and NY.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) It vanishes and everybody moves up a spot in the draft order. The Cubs then get a sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd round. The Cubs are losing their first three draft picks because of the Heyward, Zobrist and Lackey signings. So they will lose their first round pick, the comp pick gained from Fowler signing somewhere and their second round pick. The will not pick until the third round. Zobrist didn't have a QO.

If we do get him I hope his power from last season stays, that his defense can rate OK in RF, and that he returns to his .360 career OBP. It'd be a fine move if it weren't for that damn QO.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 11:24 AM) Ever consider Cespedes never wanted to leave the Mets in the first place? He has said he really liked it in NY. The Mets were a WS series team and should still be competitors in the weak NLE. I don't doubt he likes the Mets and NY, but if an offer for 5 or 6 years was on the table from another team, he'd have likely jumped on it.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) raBBit's latest tweet: "Seeing lots of talk about him, received multiple reports that the #WhiteSox could sign Dexter Fowler in the near future." Also this: #WhiteSox are active in both FA and trade market, but Cespedes interest has been moved to the back burner to less pricey alternatives.

https://twitter.com/ring786 This guy is the source for the report.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 10:48 AM) I would be shocked if he signed a 1 year deal. He has no QO attached to him. How is his market going to improve? Right, it doesn't make a lot of sense. A 2 year deal doesn't make a ton of sense either. Unless his current offers are really that low.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 14, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) Some rumors that Cespedes might be close to going back to the Mets http://www.nysportsday.com/2016/01/13/excl...-with-the-mets/ Wow, so he really might end up signing a 1-year deal. I thought Upton might do it but I never expected Cespedes to be open to the idea.

I don't see the Mets going higher than 3/75, and I doubt he would take that.

Not a bad deal for the Marlins. With the glut of OF options likely costing Cespedes and Upton a lot of money this offseason, I expect more guys to agree to extensions like Gordon did before they join the "greatest ever" FA class. Edit: Title got cut off, there's a $14 million vesting option for a 6th year.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) I'd probably fill it out with one of the free agents left. But it would be nice to add a 5 War OFer making minimal money to the team. Alas it's a complete longshot. He's at 3.3 WAR from Fangraphs. He also doesn't get on base a lot or hit for much power. He doesn't have enough of a track record to make me confident enough he'll continue putting up 3-5 WAR. I don't think he's worth what it would take to get him.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) It's not going to happen. But you have to give up talent to get talent. He wont be cheap. Even taking back a garbage contract probably wont bring his price down enough. Our rotation is already suspect, who are you replacing Q with?

Count me in on among those who like the Farmer/DJ combo, I think they have good chemistry together.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) I think Upton could end up going on a 1-2 year deal. Cespedes will probably still find a way to land 4-5 years. I think the Sox would settle on 4 but at that point, I think a few other teams would, too. 6 is just not worth it with him. If the price drops to 4 years with Cespedes, my bigger concern is the Tigers/Angels/Cardinals being willing to pony up the dough at that point, rather than worrying about the Mets/Red Sox/Braves suddenly jumping in.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 02:26 PM) Everyone has their own theory but mine all along has been the same. The longer they wait, the lower the price. Which is fine but more teams will jump into the race & IMHO, I don't think the Sox are that attractive of a team to be competing for a top FA. Overall, I don't think it's a good thing. I'll gladly be proven wrong but I've already moved on from Upton as a whole & have little hope for Cespedes. Best case at this point may be either a trade or Fowler. I don't see the AAV dropping that much, moreso the years. Obviously a lot of teams would jump in if the price fell to 1 or 2 years, but I don't see a lot of teams jumping in at 4 years, which seems like the limit of how high the Sox will go.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) When I really look at it, the Sox would have to buck 2 major trends: 1. Raising their payroll up to an all-time high. 2. Giving a franchise record-breaking contract to a player (much less a guy probably over 30). Both those things are going to have to happen at some point.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 11:18 AM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-decline...ez-star-player/ De Aza has a 15 wRC+ against LHP over the last two seasons. Didn't realize it was THAT bad, wow.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 13, 2016 -> 10:40 AM) Baseball Essential ‏@BB_Essential 16m16 minutes ago Report: Mets remain in contact with Yoenis Cespedes (@RobertMurrayBBE) http://www.baseballessential.com/news/2016...oenis-cespedes/ … From some light reading it seems a lot of Mets fans doubt they would go longer than 2 years.