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Correct. Almost any site can be built upon including areas where the stability of the soil and environmental concerns need to be addressed. So what? On the 78, they know what is under a lot of it - an old river bed and a landfill. Not ideal and not cost effective but given all of that, it is still far from an ideal site (most notably ingress/egress issues). So why did the U of I (and earlier Amazon) pull out of the plan to develop that site after millions of dollars (70 million +) were invested in architectural, land development, soil testing, and other Related issues ? I don't know, but it would be interesting to find that out. Certainly any possible future tenant would want to know that.

The problems for Robert Jr. and his agent were that he had the hand injury sliding into second and the fact that he has never been on a contending team where he was a final part to the puzzle. JR or any owner would pay for a star player on a contending team, like JR paid Michael Jordan and the championship Bulls. It is just hard to start spending on FA now, at least until the team shows some signs of life. Never forget, hindsight is always 20/20 so just look ahead now.

As some have suggested, the market for Robert may increase later, so no reason to trade now unless the return is great.In addition, it might make sense (again depending on possible return) to dangle one of our catchers (Korey Lee(a proven ML catcher) or Thaiss (age 30 in May)) and Andrew Vaughn (considering other available options at 1B) in the trade market, targeting teams looking for catching or a first basemen. I would like to keep Teel and Quero. As far as the concept of rebuilding, it seldom works. There are many more examples of failed rebuilds than those that worked out. Given the low payroll the Sox have and very few players that have much trade value, there is no reason to capitulate much further. At some point, it is time to enter the FA market and recapture some of the fan excitement lost the past few seasons. Some claim Reinsdorf will never add FA talent so it is up to JR and his current ownership team to prove them wrong. I , for one, am looking forward to watching this 2025 team because of eventual stellar starting pitchers, Noah Schultz and Hagen Smith, and a few other likely starters (i.e. Cannon, Iriarte, Martin Perez, Davis Martin, ). Historically there have been teams that have competed because of a few dominant starters (remember Randy Johnson), a decent rotation and bullpen, and decent defense. You do not necessarily need a line-up that is an offensive force to compete. It is axiomatic in baseball terms that pitching and defense can win a lot of games. So, the question is, will Sox pitching make a difference this year? Regarding our pitching check this interview with Katz out:

I'm hoping Bobby gets better so he can be with his family, friends and fans for years to come.

This is Reinsdorf's fault?

False.

I no longer want to trade personal jabs so I will no longer respond to you on any post you make other than adding a laughing emoji where it is called for. But go ahead keep it up if that feeds into your need for oneupmanship on a little baseball forum.

You would be thrown out of any college for misquoting and spinning the actual opinion of others. I doubt you graduated from any college though based on the level of your discourse and juvenile revenge posts.

Oscar Colas looks like he bulked up a bit...maybe on the trajectory of Courtney Hawkins in that regard.

I reserve judgment..kind of, because there have been so many scouting reports on Colson that have questioned his ability to be a major league SS, whether mentioning his tendency to miss the ball at the plate, or his maneuverability/flexibility/lack of quickness on his feet. If those scouting reports prove correct, at least as to his defense at ss, he might decide to switch to another position. Regardless, he still has to proved he can hit ML pitching in ST.

https://www.wbez.org/real-estate-development/2025/01/31/discovery-partners-institute-university-illinois-the-78-related-midwest-bruce-rauner Tax payers and the U of I are already out North of 30 Million on the 78 nonsense. The so-called "78" parcel sits on a former river bed that was filled in with garbage for over a decade. It has no value , which is why it was given away by Nadhmi Shakir Auchi, an Iraqi businessman who purchased it from then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s former political fixer Tony Rezko ( convicted in 2008 of corruption-related charges and sentenced to more than 10 years in federal prison.) The site is a worthless dump that unfortunately the U lof I and IL taxpayers had to find out after spending 30 Million. The least Related Development could do now is to stop dragging the White Sox and other potential partners/tenants into a pipe dream designed to bail Related out. Not going to happen...ever. Dead in the water.

I am laughing at you sir.

LOL.

It reads like more of the same .. miserable little people who complain about everything and think the world owes them something.

WTF is this thread about ?

Honestly, I don't remember what you are talking about. I believe that land was owned by another crooked developer at that time but that is going back over 40 years..

My pre-season guess for infield starters , at least to start the season: Lenyn Sosa (SS), Bryan Ramos (3B) Brooks Baldwin (2B) Ramos is probably too much of a liability on defense but I like his potential for power in the line-up.

Rudy...lol.

Notre Dame

No problem with anyone who chooses to not wear a Sox hat or go to games or switch allegiance to the Cubs. That said, comments like "I am never giving another dime to Reinsdorf " (just as one example) go beyond that. I am not surprised by the animosity, vindictiveness and even an apparent need for retribution by some, even in a sports setting. It is something that has unfortunately become more common in our society.

Really a foolish non-responsive post, but I am not going to waste any further time on this, especially with you.

I am not an authority or arbiter of fandom, but, by definition, a sports fan is an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of a team. If you choose to withdraw your support, which some suggest they will do, you are by definition, not a fan of the team. Some have even suggested they are the opposite - that they hope for failure of the team and will not attend games. That nonsense only hurts current fans who support the team and young pitchers and players trying to motivate to win games for the WSox and us, the fan base. I don't know where the foolhardy notion that not spending a dime to support Jerry Reinsdorf came from, but it is selfish, stupid (and maybe worse if it includes personal hatred for the owner, as in, he is cheap). Just a few years ago many so-called current fans were all in on the team when the WSox added Grandal to what looked to be a strong line-up. Things didn't work out and some just bailed on the team. The historic losing season invited sarcastic trolls, cub fans, know-it-alls, and big mouths to claim that they only now have withdrawn support for the team. I understand what happened with multiple key (and some expensive) players disappointing us. I largely blame Ken Williams and Rick Hahn for putting together those teams, as did the ownership, which is why Hahn and KW were fired. IMO our new GM, Manager and all the young pitchers and players deserve a fvking break from fans and their fvking support, especially before the first game of Spring training begins. Whoever claimed that somehow hurting Reinsdorf will have any positive impact on the team now or in the future sold you on a stupid idea.

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

WSox don't need a new stadium. When is the last time you attended a game?

Well the alternative has big money owners (not necessarily "big market" teams) sign the biggest stars in the game to mega million long term contracts while a few peons in the stands wear paper bags over their heads and yell "sell Jerry sell" hoping against hope that a billionaire businessman somewhere somehow would want to throw away good money after bad in a rigged game. Not going to happen so might as well come out to some games and support the young players out there. They deserve it and will appreciate it.