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Eloy had surgery for a hamstring injury running to first base after only 11 games last year. Hopefully that wont' happen again. Arguably he will be less susceptible to hamstring and other injuries if he keeps his hamstrings stretched out, and plays several games in the outfield to stay in shape. No doubt he is going to have some injuries and time on the DL. but as I mentioned, if the Sox get 100 or more games with him in the line-up, he will be a difference maker. You take what you can get from these players. None of them are perfect. He's not Aaron Judge, but he is as close to that as we have in our line-up.
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Eloy is in great shape and has looked good in the outfield. Fast and tall with great reach. He will spend some time on the injury list like most other players during the season for minor strains, sprains, etc..but let's hope nothing major because this guy is a stud that can carry this team for a series or two when other batters are cold. Vaughn's back issue appears to be minor. He said he could play tomorrow if needed. Moncada is ready to go for opening day. I'm not concerned about this line-up but I wonder if our starting and relief pitching will keep us in enough games to go on winning streaks that keep us in contention for the Division led. Almost all of our Division competitors have improved so it is hard to predict who will win the Central.
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11 days out for Vaughn so far. I hope his back is OK so he can start Opening Day. If Vaughn's back becomes an issue it would be great to have both Burger and Sheets on the roster to give him some rest during the season.
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We will see if pitcher arm injuries increase or decrease with this rule n place. As fan of baseball primarily, I enjoy the strategy that goes on between pitcher and hitter from pitch to pitch and between coaches, especially with base runners aboard. Speaking only for myself, i find it enjoyable to sit back, strap it down and relax to watch baseball rather than hockey and basketball. Those sports interest me as much as ping-pong any more.
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Zavala, Sheets, Burger and Romy (or Leury if the Sox don't have the gumption to DFA him). I like home runs and clutch hitting even more than I value good defense.
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2/27 GT Mariners vs White Sox, 2:05PM CT, NBCSC, ESPN1000
tray replied to Tnetennba's topic in 2023 Season in Review
I hope Grifol gives Sheets some starts at 1B, his natural position... not necessarily to keep him there, but otherwise for trade value. As Stone suggested Vaughn is too short to reach balls at 1B and lacks the reach and the quickness/speed that Abreu had. That is going to cost some singles on close plays and some throwing errors by infielders. Vaughn's most valuable role will likely be DH, especially if he can hit 30-40 HR, which I suspect he will do this year. Burger looks like the same one tool player that Vaughn is. Eloy is fast and can play RF but past injuries have already relegated him to the role of primary DH. This looks looks like a similar line-up/roster dilemma that the Sox had prior to trading Abreu. Some good even potentially great players placed in roles that their abilities/desires are not perfectly aligned with. I am sure every fan has their own idea how the Sox might try to resolve that and that I disagree with most. -
2/25 Game Thread - Padres @ White Sox, 2:05 PM CT, NBC Chicago
tray replied to Heads22's topic in 2023 Season in Review
I reserve judgment on his baseball talent but not on what I saw out there in terms of his body type. He looks like a big kid, that's all I am saying. There are plenty of players who carry a lot of weight/muscle mass that have been great. I just need to see more games to see how he runs and swings the bat. -
Let's wait to evaluate him after seeing him out there in Spring Training. He sure does not appear to be a prototypical outfielder. When I first saw him I thought it was Courtney Hawkins. He is a big kid.
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2/25 Game Thread - Padres @ White Sox, 2:05 PM CT, NBC Chicago
tray replied to Heads22's topic in 2023 Season in Review
Only one game in, so I reserve judgment on all players/prospects but as of now...I think Sheets has a shot at making the 26 man roster, especially after looking at Colas who looks like a linebacker more than a baseball player. Eloy looked like he was running well considering the hamstring surgery last season. Junior (Luis Robert) looks like he will be back to form this season. A lot of rust to be shaken off by all the players after a long off season. -
Eloy is a monster hitter who takes his hitting seriously. he studies pitchers during games to determine their tendencies and looks at his swings on an i-pad after his at-bats. He is just a kid at heart and his enthusiasm for the game can be infectious. Moncada looks too relaxed and even lazy to some because of the way he carries himself but as a third basemen he is as quick as a rattle snake snaring rockets and turning them into outs. He has disappointed us as a hitter but let's hope his bat speed and good eye for the strike zone come back this year. TA's swagger is part of what makes him great. Never forget that walk-off against the Yankees in the FOD game. Grandal had some of that confidence before his injuries. Let's hope he regains it and we see him hit some shots out of the park and do his patented bat flip/drop. I hope the Sox prove some of the critics at large wrong this season but even more than that, I hope they jump back on the bandwagon. All aboard. Let's Go.
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Some posters here appear to dislike Sox players, Sox management, Sox owners, and Sox fans. Not sure why they bother posting. Going after players that you don't even know on a personal basis is ridiculous. I like the line-up this year as it stands now. I think Eloy, Robert, TA and Vaughn are going to have monster years. Just enjoy the game and don't waste energy on getting personal with players, managers, the ownership, etc. Too much useless energy was expended on that last year. At the end of the day, you are just another fan. Never forget that.
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Andrus to the Sox, expected to play 2B, 1 yr, $3 mil
tray replied to Heads22's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Andrus looked like he found something in his game last year. Part of that was his will to win....his attitude as well as his performance in clutch situations. Fans who watch the games saw the same thing. He is another player like Anderson or Eloy that can rally their team with one play or one clutch at-bat. Welcome back Andrus. -
"Holmes and Bernstein are Sox bashers. Not one word escapes their lips that is not negative. " They have always bashed the Sox and always will, like some internet trolls do. Their purpose is to take the joy out of being a Sox fan and turn positive energy and enjoyment of the game into negativity and sarcasm. It's easy to be a wise guy and they are pros at that game.
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Ghost Riders in the sky - original version
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“You’d go in the locker room and all the Latino guys would be in one place, the whites in another and the African-Americans someplace else.I had heard that groups were apart and not close but part of that could be human nature, language divisions for example.The Sox locker room is a big square so guys aren’t close to start with, the Cubs locker room is circular. I don’t know if that was by design or what but that lends itself to guys getting together.” ======== Of course players that come from other countries and speak a different language tend to congregate. Not sure why it was necessary to add "Whites in another and African Americans someplace else " to that or the ridiculous suggestion that the shape of the Cub locker room has somehow helped to ease ethnic and racial differences among players on the North side. Bennetti actually said this? That's some real bulshit.
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This forum has become a troll fest.
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Jason Benetti & Steve Stone back - options picked up
tray replied to South Side Hit Men's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I was a baseball fan of Stone as a pitcher, but not since he has been a broadcaster. -
Tony said: "Again, no one asked you to add the comment that you "have not been a big baseball fan of Liam" and YOU decided to post that in a thread about him being diagnosed with cancer." I stand by my comments which, in context, were appropriate.
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OK, it seems odd to even mention that I was critical of him as a pitcher and was a proponent of trading him. OK. The cheap parsing of comments and piling on behind that is BS. Carry on, I'm done with this nonsense.
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Let me try again....while I and other posters on baseball sites have been critical of Hendriks in the past and recently participated in threads suggesting that he be traded, that is now a moot point. No issue here... unless one seeks to create controversy in a semi-clever, rhetorical, self serving way where none exists.
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Tray said: "I have not been a big baseball fan of Liam going so far as suggesting he be traded for Gleybar Torres, but I have grown to like him on a personal level because of his charitable work and his commitment to the WSox and our City. He's is a great man with the heart of a lion and will not be beaten by this disease." -------------------- Tony said: why? ---------------- It is axiomatic that when life and death health issues present themselves it is no longer appropriate to discuss, or worse yet, to call for further discussion of baseball related matters like trade possibilities, etc. That is why.
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A few of us have or are experiencing cancer on a personal or family level and can relate to what Liam and his family are and will be going through. Ideally, Liam can go into remission and return as Closer. Perhaps a more realistic hope is that he goes into remission and lives a long life, with or without a career in baseball. It doesn't matter in the larger scheme of things but I wonder if this disease was diagnosed by a team physician or his personal doctor, Whoever diagnosed it that they apparently did so early on so he has the best chance of recovering 100%. I have not been a big baseball fan of Liam going so far as suggesting he be traded for Gleybar Torres, but I have grown to like him on a personal level because of his charitable work and his commitment to the WSox and our City. He's is a great man with the heart of a lion and will not be beaten by this disease.
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True that, but they have increased the parcel of land for paarking/tailgating that I believe the Reinsdorf group and/or ISA owns. That would provide the Reinsdorf family or their successors with a big head start financially and logistically (streets , Chicago water/sewer, Police/Fire, etc) for a new stadium on the site of the Old Comiskey doing a better job next with the aesthetics and architecture. Fans of every team will endlessly and often mindlessly call for the Owners to spend more on player Contracts until they obtain a lopsided advantage in talent. It means nothing.
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You said you went to one or two games a year. That isn't season tickets. Get your story straight. If you want to make a point why wait? Are you with us or against us (the 2023 White Sox) ? Or is this just more idle posturing by another internet keyboard warrior like O'Neill.?
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" It’s the sure and certain knowledge that not only does the team not care about us like we care about the team if you think differently, you are a dew-eyed romantic...We see the team as a way to transform our hopes, our emotional investment, our literal financial investment," Your perceived financial investment consists of a couple of Polish and a dozen beers or so a year. Transform your hopes? Please. life is so much more than watching a few baseball games each year. If you are indeed older, you would understand that. "Ah, but they know how we conceive the team. It’s where we’ve made friends, where we’ve gone with our families more times than we can count, where on occasion we stand as one with a rising yell in our throats as a ball traces an arc in the night sky, ready to high-five strangers and jump like lunatics. It’s fun. It’s what we care about. It’s part of who we are." Oh come on. "So I don’t know where this anger is going to go. It’s very possible that it starts another cycle of lower attendance, Jerry using that to slash payroll, and so on, on and on, our endless Kali yuga, hoping to stumble into something lucky, waiting for it to all end. " OK, you are angry so just say you will no longer attend because the WSox are "slashing payroll" like extending Luis Robert, Eloy Jiminez, signing FA Liam Hendriks , Grandal, and more recently Bennintendi for 75 Million dollars and assembling one of the best rotations and bullpens in the league. Like maintaining the financial strength of the franchise to make sure that they stay on the South side for the next generations of Sox fans. It's not all about you. Grow the F up and quit whining.
