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2017 recruiting and HS sports thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 1, 2017 -> 10:02 AM) I dont see why they cant. Recruiting has been awful and its not because of the school, its because of the wrong targets. Well that and Beckman just being an unmitigated disaster in all facets. Zook recruited a ton of talent to Illinois until the disastrous 2009 season. -
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) By the way, given how bad Del Negro & Hoiberg's hires have been...two guys who really had minimal NBA coaching experience, I presume the franchise will look to a more established name or at least a longer term assistant to hire. I would have to think "established" would be high on the list, I just don't know who that would be. We know JR & Doug Collins are tight, but they have both alluded to that never happening. Who would be out there? Avery Johnson never got a second shot and I presume he's been away far too long to be considered again (I always found it out that after that NBA finals choke he never was able to get another job). George Karl would be an interesting name. Very very good coach who has excelled everywhere but Sacramento (which is a wasteland for all things). That said, his run in Sacramento didn't end well. Not a lot of experienced guys sitting on the sidelines right now (who you could hire in-season). Who are the top assistant's out there? Avery Johnson got a job with the Nets after he was fired in Dallas and he had no success there. And Karl has probably torpedoed any chance he has of coaching in the NBA again with his book and picking fights with players.
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Wade ripping into the team, with Butler backing him up...based upon the quotes I saw, a lot of it was consistent with Stacey King who was putting the players on blast, but obviously deeper. I think a lot of it starts with the tone (or lack thereof) set by the head coach but clearly Butler & Wade are trying to drive change the only way they know how at this point. They know they have a coach who can't do it and a flawed roster, so I'm guessing this was the straw the broke the camels back where they try to make that point. I have no problem with Butler criticizing the team but Wade needs to be way more consistent with his own effort to do that. He is as guilty as anyone of lazy play on defense.
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QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 11:15 AM) Exactly. Eisner winning a grand slam would be a nice story but don't see it happening. Sock has a better chance that Isner at this point although I don't see Sock ever winning one either. The current class of youngsters for the USA are incredibly talented (Tiafoe, Fritz, Donaldson, Opelka, etc.) but who knows if any of them will become good enough to win a grand slam. This is probably the most promising group of players the USA has had since the Roddick and Blake were coming up.
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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) And what kills me about the crowd size issue, if you had problems with the way your inauguration was covered in the media vs. Obama, fine. Reasonable people will disagree, but attack that issue and complain all you want. That fits your "us vs them" campaign theme. But why go the extra step and tell blatant lies that are easily proven false? You just set yourself up for MORE embarrassment and MORE scrutiny. It has been proven time and time again now that Trump lying and flat out making s*** up doesn't matter so why would he stop?
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QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 19, 2017 -> 12:53 PM) If you believe 4 guys should get in every year for the next 15-20 years, then Konerko has a shot. If you believe only 2 or 3 should get in, then no. You put in Konerko, then Andres Gallarraga, Carlos Delgado, John Olerud, Al Oliver, Dave Parker? And don't forget about McGriff, who should be in, but won't through the writers. It's tough to get in. Even if four guys get in every year Konerko still wouldn't make it. He isn't anywhere close to a hall of famer.
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I really wish Hoffman had gotten the 5 additional votes and made it in this year to clear some of the backlog and just to get him off the ballot so those votes could go to more deserving players.
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QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 05:29 PM) Them not going back to Romo probably cost them a shot at the Super Bowl. Their defense getting completely torched is costing them a chance at the title.
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NCAA basketball thread 2016-17
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) If he resigns, it doesn't count in the bet. Michigan ain't firing Beilein. I can't even watch them. Hand off, ball screen, dribble around arc. You are complaining about the wrong thing with respect to Beilein. He is a fantastic offensive coach and Michigan is damn good offensively this year despite not being loaded with talent. Defensively they are a complete disaster and they have pretty much never been good on that end during Beilein's tenure. -
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 01:01 PM) http://dawindycity.com/2017/01/12/chicago-...x-three-trades/ What do you guys think about these proposals? Sox Asking price for Quintana is currently "3 Elite Prospects" = Yankees: Frazier (OF), Torres (SS), and Judge (OF) Pirates: Glasnow (RHP), Meadows (OF), and Diaz © Astros: Reed (1B), Martes (RHP), and Tucker (OF) Rockies: Rodgers (SS/2B), Jeff Hoffman (RHP), and Tapia (OF) Todd Frazier Athletics: Holmes (RHP) and Chapman (3B) Braves: Sean Newcomb (LHP) and Kolby Allard (LHP) I don't see either of these deals as being realistic for one season of Frazier Abreu to the Rockies Rockies: Riley Pint (RHP) and Tom Murphy © I don't love that deal for the White Sox. Thoughts? Those proposed Frazier deals are insanity. You would be lucky to get 1 top 100 prospect for him. You sure as hell aren't getting 2.
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2016-2017 NCAA football thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
So on Clemson's first and goal play with 6 seconds left why not instruct all of your defensive players to just hold and tackle the wide receivers and then make them either go for the win or kick the FG on one final play? -
2016-2017 NCAA football thread
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Lane Kiffin's play calling has been laughably bad in this game. Feed Scarborough dumbass. Reminds me of the game against OSU two years ago where he cost Bama the game by not giving it to Henry enough with the difference being that OSU team was way better offensively than this Washington team. -
Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
whitesoxfan99 replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 12:29 PM) Am I wrong for strongly prefering the Pirates prospects? I don't like the Cardinals at all as a fit here. I prefer Meadows to anyone the Cubs have but the Cubs could actually put together a very good package for Q but I would need both Happ and Jimenez in that deal as a starting point. -
Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
whitesoxfan99 replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) I'd throw Lopez in that "ace ceiling" mix as well, which is all the more reason to go for a Meadows and Bell centric package from Pittsburgh. That said, Meadows and Glasnow would be nice as well, abs of the Sox end up with the "problem" of having too much good pitching, we see what Sale brought and what Q is likely to bring. You almost definitely aren't getting Meadows and Glasnow or Meadows and Bell. I think a realistic package that makes a ton of sense for both teams is Meadows, Newman, Keller and a lotto ticket coming back the White Sox way. -
QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 15, 2016 -> 06:04 AM) It's not that dark or gritty, I would take my kid to see it but you should check it out first. I agree. It definitely has a war feel to it and its more gritty than the other Star Wars films but there is nothing worse in this than seeing beloved characters get killed off or ROTS. I saw it with my cousin's kids who are 10 and 12 yesterday and they both loved it. I'm sure there might be some kids where a couple scenes might be too intense but I think that will be the exception to the rule.
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I really enjoyed Rogue One. It took a bit to get going but the third act is fantastic, particularly the last 5 minutes..
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Yep, absolutely and I don't find it difficult when losing is the best thing long term for the team I'm a fan of.
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Review so far are not at A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back or Force Awakens level but they are very good so far. So those who freaked out about the reshoots signalling the film would be bad can rest easy.
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QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Not sure about this but possibly the Yankees if they deal Headley somehow before Frazier is traded or the Mets as insurance for David Wright.Bith teams have other options obviously, The Mets or Yanks would welcome the NJ native and Todd would like to play out East, I think. He's a great guy and I'd be sorry to lose his presence on the team, but nt that Hahn os blowing it up, it would be best for him as well as the team to trade him. Same with Robertson and Melky. I would love to package Shields in any trade. Just get rid of him somehow some way. Why on Earth would you want to reduce anyone's return by packaging Shields with them? Let Shields suck here for the next two years while eating some innings since the team is going to suck anyways.
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The Marlins are so stupid. Giving up a first round pick to sign a closer when you have no starting pitching and a mediocre at best lineup is so foolish.
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Eaton to Nats/Giolito, Lopez, Dunning to Sox
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:27 PM) I'd be surprised if Nate Jones has the value that we think he does. I think he's one of those guys that's way more valuable to us than other teams and will be our closer this year. I'd have to think he could fetch a package similar to what the Brewers got for Thornburg and that would be a really nice return for the Sox. If they can get something similar I would move him. -
Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go
whitesoxfan99 replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:50 PM) Need position players including outfielders, Right now 2017 outfield is Melky/Shuck/Avi G. Who cares about the 2017 outfield. And Melky will hopefully be moved for the best package possible as well. -
Eaton to Nats/Giolito, Lopez, Dunning to Sox
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) Trading Sale & Q, we had no pitching. You can't just do the exact opposite. What you need is an infusion of talent and RH just got three guys in this trade who all profile as major leaguers, two of which profile as potential front of the rotation guys and the other could be a starter or a closer. That is fantastic. Oh and again, this is just one move...nothing is done yet and they also will have money to add. Yep, and I bet the centerpiece to the inevitable Quintana deal will be a top position player. -
Eaton to Nats/Giolito, Lopez, Dunning to Sox
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:12 PM) Robertson, Jones, and Frazier can bring something back too. Not anything top 50, but something. Yep, look at what Tyler Thornburg got the Brewers yesterday. A guy who was a decent major leaguer and two solid prospects. Jones could potentially bring back something similar. -
Eaton to Nats/Giolito, Lopez, Dunning to Sox
whitesoxfan99 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) Would be so sweet if STL comes in and snatches him up with a deal including Kolten Wong. Someone being used as leverage besides us for once. I would lol hard if it happened twice. Wong would be a horrendous centerpiece to a deal involving Eaton.
