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QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) Yes, losing to Winthrop is bad. No, it's not catastrophic. Margin of error gets a lot thinner. Need to win at least 2 of the next 4, and ideally 3 of the next 4, and Illinois is still ok. Honestly, it just doesn't matter until Groce is fired. Illinois loves employing coaches too long. It is absolutely absurd that Weber and Groce will have been the coach of Illinois for the last 14 years (I'm just going to assume that this will be Groce's last year) and their combined high water mark for a team that wasn't gift wrapped with so much talent that just about anyone could win with is Weber's 2008-2009 season where Illinois twice failed to score 40 points. Awesome.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 11:52 AM) Non throwing shoulder or throwing shoulder? Tough injury. Reports are throwing shoulder

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 10:12 PM) That Tilmon LOI won't mean much. Groce sold his soul for this year and still is a disgrace Ten years ago I would have been a wreck if Illinois had the drama they had surrounding Tilmon's LOI. Now i didn't even care since until Groce is fired whatever happens with the program is pretty much irrelevant. Thank you Ron Guenther, Mike Thomas, Bruce Weber, and John Groce for all being ridiculously incompetent and destroying Illinois basketball. I'm sadly not even upset by losses like tonight's anymore. Program has been garbage for 11 years now. There is a solid chance we miss the tournament for the 4th consecutive year. We missed the tourney 3 out of Weber's last 5 years so we are probably going to have been in the tourney 3 times in the last 10 years. And if you go back to the season before the last 10 that team was probably one coin flip game from being out of the tourney. It is simply absurd how incompetent Weber was with what he took over and Thomas managed to hire an even worse coach which is pathetic (he somehow managed to replace two incompetent coaches with even more incompetent coaches).

So Jay Cutler may have suffered a season ending shoulder injury. This team will be funny bad the rest of the year.

Jerrell Freeman suspended 4 games

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) I think you got your info from 247 who has incomplete data because their site didn't exist back then. Brandon Paul and DJ Richardson for example, were top 50 recruits. #35 and #49 RSCI respectively. That was 3 top 15 years classes in Weber's in his final 4 years. Anyways, my point is not what Weber left (irrelevant talking about Groce's 6th year), it's that Groce isn't even recruiting at a level above him, which we hired him to do and that this type of talent isn't somehow unique for use, even compared to the Weber years. Yep, it looked like early on Groce was going to recruit at a much higher level than Weber and that was what excited me about him but that just hasn't happened. Basically everything looked great with Groce up until the Snyder/Cliff fiasco. Since then recruiting has been fine but not good enough given that Groce has shown he isn't going to win big without superior talent.

Groce has to be fired if he misses the tournament again and he should be fired even if they make the tournament but all they do is sneak in. You don't keep coaches once you know they aren't the right guy.

Klinsmann has to be fired after this

This is also about the worst I've ever seen Brooks play.

Michael Bradley is completely done. He is just horrendous now.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) Could Abreu and Nate Jones bring back Bregman in a trade with Houston? Probably not huh? Hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahah. No

So Donald Trump's proposed tax plan does basically nothing to help the middle class, hurts some of the upper middle class and helps the super rich. I can't wait till we hear more about all of his policies that will actually help the middle and working class.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 04:08 PM) More than third party votes, or votes for the wrong party, if all of the people who didn't vote at all in this election all came out and voted for one completely different person, that person would be President today. I've also always wondered if the president was elected by popular vote if that would drive up voting (because people in states that are non-competitive would be more likely to vote), drive voting down (with people rationalizing it as how much does my vote matter if it is one of 100 million plus which would be nonsense when you look at how close the popular vote was this year), or if we would be stuck in about the same range.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:15 PM) Approval ratings, like polling, did not matter in this election. The people who came out in waves to support Trump did not respond to approval ratings polls nor any polling. They did not exist. Until yesterday when they did by the millions. 1.1 million more people voted in Wisconsin alone in 2016 than in 2012. Where are you getting that number? Turnout was significantly down this year across the country and the vote totals between Obama and Romney were higher than Clinton and Trump is Wisconsin.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:19 AM) I don't think hillary is winning the popular vote though. I edited my post to account for that but its absurd that it is even a possibility for the second time in less than 20 years.

And I agree with whoever said it earlier, let's get rid of the f***ing outdated nonsense that is the electoral college. Trump may win that too but this could very possibly be the 2nd time in less than 20 years we elect a president that didn't even get the most votes. That is absurd.

I'm going to blame all of you people who watch garbage f***ing reality TV lol

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 11:08 PM) Christie, Guliani and Gingrich must be really happy tonight. Some nice appointments coming their way. Dear god, that being his team is even more terrifying than Trump himself being president. All are complete clowns

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 10:46 PM) There is no "artistry" involved with him. Nope he literally lied his way through the campaign with everyone knowing he was doing it and it didn't matter.

This is why you don't waste a vote on a f***ing third party if you are in a battleground state.

So if Trump does win this country will have elected a racist, fascist, sexist candidate who did nothing but lie his entire campaign and who's only stated policies are his ridiculous tax policy and his racist policies.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 12:48 PM) Trump's filed his first election lawsuit already. Donald Trump is such a f***ing loser.

QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 12:05 AM) Hawk seemed to think it makes them go for it I can't wait to have them half ass it again this offseason and leave a bunch of holes on the roster but claim they are "going for it."

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 11:51 PM) Rain delay f***ed the Tribe, should of never been stopped. Francona did. Shaw wasn't sharp in 9th either. He gave him way too much rope.

Shaw looked bad in 9th. How do you keep him in that long in 10th when you have Otero?