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I hate Stacey King. I really do.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) Now clearly Rose still needs to do more when he doens't have the basket and the offense has to figure s*** out cause it looks so ugly at times, but I'm also more and more convinced that has a lot to do with the fact that we have a lot of really s***ty role players too (the days of this being a deep team are over and it is a myth). On any given night we could have 4 or 5 just horrendous players who get significant minutes (Brooks / Snell / McD / Mirotic / Moore are all so inconsistent that they can all be absolute black hole awful...Hinrich probably should fit in this camp but so little is expected of him and he's still such a stable passer / defender). Your constant defense of Hinrich always cracks me up. Hinrich is awful and has been for a long time. And what makes him a stable passer? His assist rate is ridiculously low. The only reason he doesn't turn the ball over much is because he literally does nothing on offense. You can find plenty of guards that wouldn't turn the ball over if you told them to never dribble or try to create for anyone else.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 06:57 PM) All true. We basically have Milan and Odenigbo who are (potentially) real football players on the dline and neither of them has even proven anything. Maybe McGrew can be a 3rd down pass rusher but I'm super optimistic there. That is why I've consistently said that even if we are solid next year because of starting a ton of seniors we are royally f***ed in 2017 which makes this Cubit thing and punting on 2 straight recruiting classes extra infuriating.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 1, 2016 -> 06:05 PM) Pretty good day for Illini recruiting (relatively). Just landed LB Dele Harding who may be the best player in the class and could start from day 1. The news was that he was going to Rutgers so that's a nice surprise to get him. Also got Eddy Fish to flip his commit from Boston College to Illinois. I guess if there's a silver lining to this bad class, it's that Illinois has an oppurtunity to sign a decent offensive line class for the second year in a row. That seemed like a rarity even when they were recruiting well. When Harding is your headliner your class is beyond garbage. And I'm more concerned about dline recruiting than oline since we lose 5 seniors after next year and besides the seniors we have maybe 2 kids in the program that are dlinemen that have any talent. We also have no good dlinemen committed right now.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 09:20 PM) Well he's not anymore. That's 4 guys who cancelled this weekend at least. So much for that. Drake Spears decommits because he doesn't have the grades. This class just keeps getting better and better. Even if they close "strong" by adding a couple ok players this class is f***ing awful. This class is even worse than Zook's last couple of classes which were both awful. You have to go back to when Ron Turner just stopped even trying to recruit to find a class this bad.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 12:04 AM) Lol, of course. Not sure how they lost out on Carmouche with all the need at LB. Have 4-5 Scholes left. Let's save it from complete disaster. Shane Richards- juco OL, ok state verbal. I thonk hell end up in champaign though. Just visited Sadarius Hutcherson- So Carolina verbal would probably be our best commit if they can get him. He's visiting this weekend. Dele Harding- He's pretty much a must. And he should commit to Illinois. Last decent LB prospect were in on since Carmouche chose elsewhere. Was a UT verbal now down to Rutgers and Illinois. Visiting this weekend. Tadarryl Marshall- lot of decent offers and for some reason is visiting illinois this weekend. David Montgomery- Iowa State commit, visiting this weekend. Only rb were in on. Not a position of need but he's a good prospect to see what up anyways. Trevour Simms- Mizzou commit or something, I don't know. He's flipped like 10 times. Land 2-3 of those kids and I'll maybe be okay with the class. Doubt we even do that. Lot of people visiting this weekend, they better get some committs. Marshall and Montgomery aren't visiting any longer. Where are you seeing that Hutcherson is visiting?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:36 PM) He has absolutely been good over the past month or so though and is trending upward (which is nice). I'd agree he has definitely looked better and is trending upwards. Good? Debatable as he has been horrible distributing the ball and I'd say he has had 5 bad games in January (might be unfair to count the Miami game but he had a bad first half before sitting out the second half), 4 really good games and 2 solid games and the team has not been good with him on the floor.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:30 PM) He hasn't been great but to call him below average is ridiculous. Terrible shooting, offensive rating below 100, bad assist rate for a PG. Yeah, I'd say over the course of the season he has been below average. Thankfully he has played better of late and he looks fine athletically.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:30 PM) Looked like Hill got fouled at the end. He clearly did but we almost certainly wouldn't have won anyways.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:25 PM) DROSE has been great this season. He just hasn't been able to stay on the court. Yeah, he really hasn't been great. Below average although he has been better lately.

This is a terrible basketball game.

Holy s*** are the Lakers bad. And if I'm them unless I get the #1 pick to land Simmons I'm hoping I fall out of the top 3 this year so that the 76ers get the pick this year since this draft looks pretty bad right now rather than having the 76ers get their pick no matter what next year.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:00 PM) Groce's offense for 4 seasons now has been - shoot 3's and pray they go in. How many 6, 8, 10 min stretches without scoring do we have to sit through? We've been sitting through those droughts for 10 years now. The only season post Dee where we weren't bad on offense was McCamey's senior year and even that team wasn't great on offense and underachieved badly at that end.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:41 AM) To Cubit's credit, Illinois still in on a lot of targets going into signing day that could take this class up from the very bad level. I guess immediate playing time is alluring to some. They got Stewart Reese on campus somehow this weekend, even though everyone thought he was going to FSU and has an offer from every team in the south. Hope they can get him to committ. Didn't land Carmouche today and Reese is no longer visiting.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) Yep, he's now being projected 2nd round after his performance at practice. Sounds like Miller and Jihad Ward from Illinois are two of the guys who have made themselves the most money so far this week.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:41 AM) To Cubit's credit, Illinois still in on a lot of targets going into signing day that could take this class up from the very bad level. I guess immediate playing time is alluring to some. They got Stewart Reese on campus somehow this weekend, even though everyone thought he was going to FSU and has an offer from every team in the south. Hope they can get him to committ. Eh, they are in on enough guys where the class might not be a complete joke like it is right now but it is going to be a bad class.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2016 -> 11:39 AM) Obviously this is for pure discussion, but interesting none the less. https://twitter.com/jon_greenberg/status/692386136505847808 Interesting in that the salaries match up? That would be a remarkably stupid trade for the Clippers and even if they decided they wanted to be done with Griffin they would do way better in a trade than that.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) The ooc schedule was embarrassing. Barry scheduled to try and save his job and he might have done just that. Still, this is the best team we've had since we were a good program and they seem to be improving as the season goes on too. 2 of the next 3 are Evansville and @Wichita so we'll see what happens. If I had to guess we'll lose both but I'm just wired to be pessimistic about SIU basketball at this point. And this is a team that's just getting worse and worse. Obviously it helped a ton when they caught UNC and ISU because of injuries and what not but still, it's pretty crazy what's happened to them. To be clear, I haven't seen Southern Illinois play so other than just looking at their raw efficiency numbers I have no idea how good they are. I'm just saying that they have actually played the sisters of the poor for their schedule and other than replacing a marginal at best Kent State team with another truly garbage team it would basically have been impossible for them to have put together a weaker schedule.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 26, 2016 -> 09:06 AM) Salukis are 18-3. It isnt like they have been world beaters(they got smoked by Wichita St), but their schedule hasnt been sisters of the poor either. It doesnt make sense but it has been fun so far Um, they have played one of the weakest schedules in the entire country (337 out of 351 per Kenpom, RPI isn't as good of an indicator but they are 291 there as well).

So I think people are going to take too much away from this one game but the one thing that is clear is that the Warriors will have more room for error when these teams play in the playoffs. The Warriors are capable of beating the Spurs when they aren't playing their best but the reverse is definitely not true.

Spurs getting run off the floor right now. Steph on fire tonight and the Spurs aren't sharp. Not a good combo.

The Spurs uncharacteristically really sloppy against the Warriors so far. You cannot turn the ball over against them because they are just ridiculous in transition.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting...016/illinois-26 21 total commits. 7 3* and the rest are 2*. Not that star's mean anything but it shows you how poorly they really do recruit. What a total and complete shock. We are now going to be in a position that the 2017 defense (and most likely the whole team) is going to be a complete disaster regardless of coach. So rather than hiring a new coach with a solid roster with a ton of seniors they will inherit a complete s***show on defense and they will almost certainly have a worse record than Cubit will have next year which will be terrible from an optics standpoint. So f***ing dumb. Or even worse is Cubit goes like 6-6 or 7-5 next year and we retain him and this staff still recruits like crap and then 2017 and 2018 are both complete disasters and we hire a coach when there is zero talent left on the roster.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jan 25, 2016 -> 10:21 PM) The conundrum known as the bulls continues. They consistently play good D and they are consistently bad on offense. There is no real conundrum.

Terrible performance by the Bulls. Gasol played well, Niko had a solid game and Brooks was also solid. Horrible from everyone else.