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Haha. C'mon Now CW, both you and I know that "President" Bush can't be wrong.

I didn't get them in my f***ing easter basket.

http://www.local6.com/orlpn/news/stories/n...327-080343.html war style! WHAT THE f*** is going on with this country?!

We train the military like McVeigh who end up going whacko. We also train Central American terrorists at the School of the Americas. Graduates from there have slaughtered, raped, etc. etc. etc. church workers, civil/human rights workers, labor unionizers, children all over Central America and South America.

These are all valid points that should be taken into consideration, even if you support the war. There can definitely be backlash in any or all of these areas. Bush I was told that his Gulf War would set back peace and Middle Eastern relations at least 20 years. I can only imagine what this is going to do now.

I watched about a half hour of it last night on MTv when they had their "Corporate Band of the Month" concert series going on. I seriously think I could have taken a dump and had that be a better album. Compared to Hybrid Theory, the songs I heard off this new album were terrible. I'll stick with my Propagandhi and Dead Kennedys, thank you very much.

Actually even before this war, many Arab companies have come out with their own fast food chicken enterprises and their own soda companies to lower their dependence on western influence.

nothing damning to the Iraqis. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...hemical_plant_3 and about the Michael Moore thing... John Horn of the Los Angeles Times reported that “as Moore’s speech reached its crescendo” the producer and director decided “to cut him off. ‘Music! Music!’ they yelled. The orchestra quickly drowned out Moore and his microphone receded into the floor. Most of the Hollywood audience smiled and applauded, but stagehands, who were close to the microphones, booed loudly, making it appear to a television listener that Moore’s criticism of President Bush was not well received.

The International Criminal Court has wanted to bring charges against Clinton et al. for their Yugoslav campaign. But the US has set the international precedent that if any US person is brought on war crimes charges, the US Army will be sent in full force to "liberate" them from the Hague. So, we're basically bullying other countries now so we can do whatever we want. It's not that people don't WANT to bring charges against the US, it's that the court won't be able to do s*** if it's invaded by the US military. The US has also stopped the wishes of a lot of the world...Israel is the country in the UN that has violated more resolutions than Saddam ever has. But every trime the world tries to enforce the resolutions, the US vetos it so nothing happens to Ariel Sharon.

Bob Dylan rules. "The Hurricane", "Masters of War", etc. etc. etc. He is a f***ing god.

Baggs, the war is still illegal. I found this on National Public Radio: by PETER FREUNDLICH: All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor-bound to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they define it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is a good thing that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, `We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace,' but not amusing for someone who actually commands an army to say that. As a collector of laughable arguments, I'd be enjoying all this were it not for the fact that I know--we all know--that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak, circular reasoning accident.

Maddox rules. He should run for President, haha.

http://maddox.xmission.com/tictacs.html The Real Who Is Smarter....Bush or Tic Tacs?

A lot of the countries owe tons of money to the IMF and the World Bank. There are African countries that owe 4 times their GDP to just pay off the interest from the loans. The IMF/World Bank are major reasons for economic disparities.

If I had the time to watch SportsCenter, etc. etc. etc. I'd comment a lot more on the White Sox. But at the current time with school and exams soon, I've been writing papers, presentations and working my ass off. Trust me, when summer starts to roll around, I'll actually be able to post more about the Sox since I'll have the time to do so. But right now, the anti-war movement is a little bit more important to me than the Chi Sox. I wish I had more time to not be protesting war criminal leaders, Ashcroft trying to rape civil liberties, etc. etc. etc. and have more time to watch and keep closer track with my beloved White Sox.

It's very difficult to remake biological and chemical weapons if you don't have a proper environment to keep them stable. And if we believe the US saying that they are using trucks, that doesn't do it at all. The US spends millions keeping our biological and chemical weapons supply up to date because it turns to s*** as it gets old.

I have a copy of that video. It's really good. They even put in a short clip from Urbana at Prospect for Peace (it's when it's really snowing hard and looks like a blizzard) cuz we got told we are in the video. It's a really good song. Sure, Bush has skeletons and sure Saddam is evil. However, I agree with C. Joseph Sprague saying that "It would be foolhardy to engage the people of Iraq in a war for the purpose of regime change. The costs of such a war in human life, disruption in the Middle East, propaganda for Osama bin Laden, and the strain on good will, international relationships and financial resources of this nation are beyond calculation." The anti-war movement is also somewhat anti-Bush because by waging this war, he has become an international war criminal. It makes sense to bring that into the movement. But the video and song are really goddamn good. Go SoaD!

He was referencing the overthrow of the apartheid regime in S. Africa. They did it without violence. What was floating it was economic bonds, the people in the rich and powerful nations got rid of their bonds and the regime went under.

Big business has trumped US allies too. (Remember we did sell weapons to Saddam in the 80s knowing he was a dictator) or overthrowing Allende in Chile because US corporations owned over 80% of the copper and he wanted to nationalize the copper industry or the Marines being sent into Guatemala to stop a peasant revolt and overthrow the Guatemalan government (United Fruit was purchasing land from Guatemala very cheaply and began to own over 30% of Guatemala. So, the government asked that they could buy back some of the land at the price UF was buying from them. But UF said that price was wrong and demanded the government pay more. The Guatemalans refused and the US sent in the Marines which overthrew the Guatemalan government. Business interests play a HUGE role in politics. Hell, oil is one of the underlying reasons we are invading Iraq anyways (not the main one, but it definitely an influence)

420, counselors are, for the most part f***ing douches. I speak from having dealt with quite possibly one of the most insane ones ever. My junior year of high school I had a counselor who told me that I would get a 19 on the ACT and that I shouldn't go to college because I would never get in. I got a 27 and got into the college I wanted. This guy also told a friend of mine to "become a rodeo clown" because she wouldn't get into a good college with a 24 ACT and a 3.6 GPA. Then my senior year, I didn't join National Honors Society (I had the GPA and everything, I was just lazy and didn't fill out the forms) But the guidance counselor had this delusion that I was depressed about not getting in. So, I challenged him to find my application forms in the list. He then when behind my back and started discussing it with my mom who laughed at him. He also told my friends' parents that their kids were doing illegal things which they weren't. The guy was a f***. Just be glad you didn't have counselors like that. And the kicker is the first counselor was a priest! haha (and no, he did not try to sodomize me)

The inspectors were also recalled in 1998 by the United Nations. So they have no been in country in 5 years.

give me some lies that have been stated? has for let the UN inspectors finish there work havent they been there for 12 years already???? with suddan showing them where they can search??? and how many times has he refused to let them go somewhere and kick them out only to let them back in by threats??? suddan is mad yes, but not a stupid man. he knows how to work the system and he did it for 12 years to long. The BBC and the Guardian have shown that Powell's UN report was plagiarized from info from 1991. (grad school work was plagiarized too) Also, the CIA has proven wrong Bush's claims about direct ties between Al Qaeda and Iraq since they can't find concrete proof no matter how much they sift through info.

You're quite welcome. I wish I had more of my research at home here with me and didn't leave it in Urbana. It's nice to debate with a guy that doesn't talk in sentence fragments or just call everybody a "Traitor" and that is their only argument. (like the pro-war people on the campus I go to)

I've said it about 9 or 10 times already but I'll do it here again Let the UN inspectors finish their work! Give the inspections ample time. It was asinine for Bush to put "time limits on diplomacy" but then again, I'd expect that from a man who is the crown prince of the oil barons and doesn't even read his own reports. If there is such a great case FOR WAR then why did Bush and Co. have to lie so many damn times? Why all the lies and deceit from the administration? Somebody please answer that!

I just used it as a justification that we can't claim a higher moral ground in the issue as a claim for going to war. We knew he was killing his own citizens with it, yet we sold it to him anyways. Now we're coming across saying that we are the "champions of the Iraqi people" when we provided Saddam with all the weapons he needed to do whatever the f*** he pleased to his own people and we never condemned it at all. Also, from 1991-1998, both Ritter and Rocke said that they got over 95% of the weapons from Iraq. So, there are a very slim amount in the country, if any. And any weapons he does have are useless goo by now because they have short shelf lives.