Soxplosion Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I saw a few people bash on E-Lo and go unchallenged so Im curious if thats the common view. I think Loaiza did betray us and let us down. He had two chances to put away our rival and he failed both times, and then he failed again in a last ditch game against KC. He pitched great for us but when we truly needed him to be great, he couldnt do it. Personally, Im not overly fond of mediocre pitchers who come here and pitch like hell until we really need em where they go back to their old form. You guys have seen all year that Ive never been really fond of Loaiza, I always saw him as a bit of a fluke. Im not sure I want to see him back here next year either. Thoughts on this subject are appreciated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I think the idea of this thread is idiotic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Bennidict Arnold for having 3 straight bad starts? You don't think that is an overdramatization or anything do you? Try a guy with the highest workload of his career who just wore out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Benedict was a great and daring general but he felt his duty was unappreciated so he betrayed them. Loaiza didnt necessarily betray us but he let us down. He pitched great but in the end he failed us. If hes tired, it doesnt matter. His stupid ass shoulda said something. And if hes gonna blow down the stretch every year, I really dont want him back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkit Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Roman... Â This post reeks of someone that hasn't been in this world long enough to understand the limits that life puts on people. This guy exploded past his career bests in every category and he led the team in innings pitched...he simply ran out of gas! Â That makes him tired, not a bad guy. Â Tell someone he's tired? What would they do? Let Frank pitch in his spot? We don't have any other starters to give him a rest! If he said he was tired [he did, by the way, say he was tired, before he hit this wall] and didn't want to make a start, then people would fire on him heavily for missing a start down the stretch... Â He's the one guy that I'll allow may be tired... Â Forkit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Neither. Â I see Loaiza as a guy who did WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than was EVER expected of him, but is petering out at the end. He is not a choker or a traitor in my eyes. He had a great season with a lousy ending. At least HE did not wait until late May to start winning ballgames. As far as pitchers are concerned, he is the ONLY reason the Sox could have possibly climbed back into contention in the first place. Â He is neither an Ace nor a Traitor, but he is MUCH closer to an Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 For the record, Loaiza's last start was very winnable. No offense once again killed his chances, not poor pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I think the idea of this thread is idiotic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 19 wins. 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 19 wins. 'nuff said. The dudes a tool. I think he posts this s*** just to get a rise out of the majority of posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 The dudes a tool. I think he posts this s*** just to get a rise out of the majority of posters. I second that remark!!!!!!!!!!! :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 In the game against the Twins a division winning effort on a fly ball to the gap in right by Ordonez is caught and game is tied at 1 instead in falls and a sacrifice fly later it is 4-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I think the idea of this thread is idiotic.... I second that.. Betrayed us?? HUH!!! He won 19 games.... Sheesh cut the guy some slack. Man!!! Â So what did Buherle do than???? he did start 2-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 So what did Buherle do than???? he did start 2-10 Â Don't get Roman started on MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Don't get Roman started on MBÂ Don't get Roman started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Can we all just agree to let this thread die? It is one of the dumbest threads I have seen on here and there is no reason to give it any more attention? All agreed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxrd5 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Can we all just agree to let this thread die? It is one of the dumbest threads I have seen on here and there is no reason to give it any more attention? All agreed? Give it the Axe!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 We need a "This Thread Sucks" icon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Here's some. Â I like this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Two other people agree with me. I dont want to see Loaiza back here next year. He implodes under pressure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 Two other people agree with me. I dont want to see Loaiza back here next year. He implodes under pressure... Loz did implode when needed the most, unlike The Big Skirt Frank Thomas and Maggs, boy they were the king of clutch hits in Minnesota!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 I dont give a s*** about Maggs imploding. Im no fan of his and I never said he didnt implode. Frank imploded too but hes a legend and he deserves respect. None of this "Big Skirt" nonsense. The man has 41 bombs and 100 RBIs. What else do ya want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 I dont give a s*** about Maggs imploding. Im no fan of his and I never said he didnt implode. Frank imploded too but hes a legend and he deserves respect. None of this "Big Skirt" nonsense. The man has 41 bombs and 100 RBIs. What else do ya want? Do you have any idea how hypocritical you just sounded. You have flamed Loaiza for three bad performances when he had a great year. Then you try to defend Frank by throwing out his HR and RBI totals which are great and very good respectively but nothing all that special when you look at his BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxplosion Posted September 22, 2003 Author Share Posted September 22, 2003 Who cares about his low average? That doesnt matter. He produced runs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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