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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go

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  • Guys...I feel like losing Quintana would hurt the most. What is everyone's thoughts on keeping him? Maybe he can be the Ace of the next good Sox team.

  • http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/article/2123...white-sox-talk/   Official site of the Yankees reporting that the earlier reports of Robertson being included in trade talks was false.

Hey. Kudos to Hahn. He's getting hte top level guys I wanted to see. But now that we know who else was offered his career will be defined by if any of them outperform Moncada/kopech who else we get for Q and others.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:46 PM)
Yeah but if the offers are really 95% of the Sale offers, then I don't know how competitive that kind of offer is.

 

I would guess 95% means you aren't getting the top guy, but the rest of the offer is similar.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:43 PM)
Absolutely. Sell on Eaton now. He'll never reach 6 WAR territory again. He's just not that kind of player.

 

Sign me up for the rebuild. If you can get big value for Quintana, Abreu and Eaton right now you do it

 

That would likely give us a top 5 farm system at the end of the day and give the Sox an opportunity to compete better in the future

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:01 PM)
I would guess 95% means you aren't getting the top guy, but the rest of the offer is similar.

 

Quintana is under control for four years, unless there are premium pieces coming back to the Sox he won't be going anywhere

 

I did not realize some scouts view Kopech as a top 5 pitching prospect in the game

Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana?

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM)
Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana?

 

Interesting, but I don't think that would be the best use of Q and Eaton. It would likely be better to trade them individually for nice packages

 

Abreu has a solid amount of value as well

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM)
Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana?

 

I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:14 PM)
I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides.

 

Yeah, you really need to get 8-10 players for Q and Eaton

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:58 PM)
"Catching breath" = making the other teams sweat and pay up to get him.

Yep. It's nice being in the driver's seat.

 

Q is the pitcher I preferred to keep but if a team wants to ante up then why not? For me, talks begin with a Sale type package and see if anyone ends up giving in. Imho, a team would. Possibly the rumored Nat's package for Sale.

 

 

the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM)
Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana?

 

If I am Washington I would trade Turner, Giolito and Robles for Eaton and Quintana right away

 

Eaton and Q are under cheap control for years and both have been 5+ WAR players

 

 

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

 

Could be gearing up for 2018 to give JR one last final push.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

 

We will have TONS of payroll flexibility as a result of the rebuild

 

Once Melky and Robertson are off the books the payroll will be tiny

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:14 PM)
I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides.

 

This. The point of this rebuild is to turn a poor farm into a really, really good system. The Boston package got you your headliner, now let's get 8-10 guys for Q and Eaton.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

Bryce Harper will fix that. ;)

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

 

Bryce Harper here we come!

QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:16 PM)
the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year

 

Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent.

Hopefully we also take advantage of our (potentially high) draft picks the next few years.

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Hearing #WhiteSox are involved in many discussions right now. Hahn might not be finished while we're here. A lot going on.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:17 PM)
We will have TONS of payroll flexibility as a result of the rebuild

 

Once Melky and Robertson are off the books the payroll will be tiny

 

Plenty of money for the bad 4year /$48-60M deals they like to hand out to s***ty players.

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:18 PM)
Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent.

 

Sox likely won't be players in 2018, but come 2019 I could see a rebuilt team ready to compete with more moves and quality drafts

 

We are heading for a top 5 draft pick the next two years in a row

QUOTE (Username @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:18 PM)
Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent.

Correct. This is officially Hahn's team now, if we deal Q, Frazier, Melky, Robertson, and Eaton, it sets us up well for the '18 FA class with injecting our minor league system and incorporate some of the talent onto the MLB roster by then. Ladies and Gentlemen, hold onto your butts, the White Sox may be on the radar quicker than we think. Did I mention tanking for a year or two sets us up nicely for a top 5 pick?

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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:20 PM)
Sox likely won't be players in 2018, but come 2019 I could see a rebuilt team ready to compete with more moves and quality drafts

 

We are heading for a top 5 draft pick the next two years in a row

 

I'm glad that Hostetler is running the show now in regards to the draft. Love his philosophy.

I want more for Quintana than what they got for Sale or I wouldn't trade him. He's the best pitcher on the market now and is under control for longer than Sale.

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