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Quintana Rumors: Round and round and round we go

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Replying to myself. The first basee prospect I was referring to is actually Ian Happ, who is listed as a second baseman/outfielder. They also have a third-base prospect

named Candelaria who is highly regarded, and a couple of really good-looking other outfielders. I would certainly explore those options.

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:18 PM)
Would have worked better as a Rick Roll.

But Quintana wants to ride his bicycle

QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:15 PM)

Yep, sometimes these baseball rumors feel like we're riding a bicycle around a NASCAR track.

The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well.

 

I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:21 PM)
The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well.

 

I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got.

 

If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're hell bent on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another.

Edited by soxfan2014

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 06:23 PM)
If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're content on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another.

If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:23 PM)
If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're content on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another.

 

I think that is likely what Hahn and Huntington are haggling about. I would be ecstatic if Sox acquired Bell, but he is major league ready and will really help their 2017 club.

Levine says that every major league team remains heavily engaged in talks for Q, so take solace in that my friends.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:24 PM)
If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list.

 

Honestly I think McCutchen's trade market is holding this whole deal up.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:25 PM)
Levine says that every major league team remains heavily engaged in talks for Q, so take solace in that my friends.

Every team is on him - sick wid it

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 06:27 PM)
Honestly I think McCutchen's trade market is holding this whole deal up.

And until they make that move they don't know what prospects they could afford to give up for Quintana and they don't know what their salary situation is. It's an entirely reasonable issue - they can probably get that deal done, but it will take work.

 

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:21 PM)
The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well.

 

I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got.

 

I would not rule out getting three top 50 prospects due to Quintana's surplus value

 

Moncada was not just a top 50 prospect, but arguably the top prospect in baseball. Kopech had seriously trended upward from the #70's to being #30, perhaps higher as well. You do not part with players like that except for an elite player such as Sale

 

Quintana could net the White Sox something like Glasnow or Keller, + Bell + Newman + maybe one more prospect

 

 

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:34 PM)
Sox have no inclination to move him either, unless they were to get a package GREATER than the Sale return.

As it should be.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:30 PM)
I would not rule out getting three top 50 prospects due to Quintana's surplus value

 

Moncada was not just a top 50 prospect, but arguably the top prospect in baseball. Kopech had seriously trended upward from the #70's to being #30, perhaps higher as well. You do not part with players like that except for an elite player such as Sale

 

Quintana could net the White Sox something like Glasnow or Keller, + Bell + Newman + maybe one more prospect

Without Meadows, I've come to my preference for a Pirates deal being Keller, Bell, Newman, +

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:24 PM)
If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list.

It appears that they want to move McCutchen.

But he's an extremely difficult player to value... terrible 2016 in his magic 30 year. I can't see a team risking trading a top prospect for him; and the Pirates, understandably, want one. I can see a team doing some volume with second tier prospects.

Edited by GreenSox

Same problem with Archer, Gray and Verlander...he's still a former MVP, but the metrics no longer agree, especially from a defensive standpoint.

Edited by caulfield12

A year ago they were trying to extend him and now they want to trade him. They're panicking over one bad year.

When it comes to white sox trades - today sucks. Otherwise, it's been a pretty kocher day.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale

The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale

The #Titanic has sunk. No word on number of deaths yet.

QUOTE (Special K @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:13 PM)
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale

The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract

Been in a K hole, have you?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:16 PM)
Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale

The #Titanic has sunk. No word on number of deaths yet.

You win.

Soon, it will be Wednesday.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 07:27 PM)
Soon, it will be Wednesday.

 

Wednesday is coming.

Duh. How could I forget!! He's almost guaranteed to be traded tomorrow then.

 

In the last 21 years 5 trades have been made on December 28th - including Tim Raines being sent to the Yankees in 1995 and Chapman going from the Reds to the Yankees last year.

 

All of these quantum mechanic elements added up lead to a near certainty of tomorrow's Q trade to New York.

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