Holy projection, batman

Last time I checked, SoxTalk was not the Sox GM...lol.

 

At any rate, do we really need a separate thread for Saunders?

 

 

Is SoxTalk also content with Abreu's defense at 1b? If Delmonico and Hayes aren't going to be considerably better, they probably need to look outside the organization, unless you think Avi can make the transition successfully to 1B? And the fact of the matter is that Abreu and Avi both will likely be gone after 2019, yes?

 

Now it's possible Sheets is ready to play there in 2020, but would you be willing to put Vegas odds on him starting at 1b Opening Day that season?

What is there to be lost by Abreu playing poor defense for the next two years, really?

 

 

What is there to be lost by Abreu playing poor defense for the next two years, really?

 

Anderson and Moncada's confidence will be affected to an extent defensively...thinking every off target throw will result in an error.

 

Young pitchers won't be helped by pressure of additional high stress pitches/innings.

 

Etc.

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Anderson and Moncada's confidence will be affected to an extent defensively...thinking every off target throw will result in an error.

 

Young pitchers won't be helped by pressure of additional high stress pitches/innings.

 

Etc.

 

Oh come on

I don't mind rolling with Delmonico and/or Hayes at 1B with Abreu the primary DH while still getting semi-consistent at bats throughout the season.

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by soxfan2014

I don't mind rolling with Delmonico and/or Hayes at 1B with Abreu the primary DH while still getting semi-consistent at bats throughout the season.

 

Abreu semi-consistent at bats, or Delmonico/Hayes?

Oh come on

 

What happened to Alexei's defense in 2010 when Vizquel was playing 3B next to him?

 

You're telling me that whether you have Abreu or Brandon Belt over there, it makes no appreciable difference to the middle infielders?

Abreu semi-consistent at bats, or Delmonico/Hayes?

 

I'm saying like once or twice a week (or every few weeks...whatever semi-consistent is).

What happened to Alexei's defense in 2010 when Vizquel was playing 3B next to him?

 

You're telling me that whether you have Abreu or Brandon Belt over there, it makes no appreciable difference to the middle infielders?

 

Come on...that was more Vizquel coaching Alexei. Elvis Andrus was a rough defender to start his career but really turned a corner when Vizquel was the backup infielder in Texas before he came over to the Sox.

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Come on...that was more Vizquel coaching Alexei. Elvis Andrus was a rough defender to start his career but really turned a corner when Vizquel was the backup infielder in Texas before he came over to the Sox.

 

So having Vizquel as a coach or Belt as 1b everyday wouldn't help Anderson/Moncada as well....?

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So having Vizquel as a coach or Belt as 1b everyday wouldn't help Anderson/Moncada as well....?

 

This is seriously all over the place. You are projecting future player slumps that will be solved by "cheap" offseason first basemen and Omar Vizquel

This is seriously all over the place. You are projecting future player slumps that will be solved by "cheap" offseason first basemen and Omar Vizquel

 

It's crazy to deliberately play one of the worst 1b in all of baseball there....for the reasons of keeping him happy, so we can lose more games for draft position?

 

And we can't acknowledge the benefits to Anderson and Moncada of having someone they could feel confident in throwing to?

That the fewer errors on the infield, the better off our young pitchers will be?

 

Didn't anyone watch the 2015/16/17 (Cubs, Royals, Indians) seasons to understand how defense/shifts are revolutionizing the game? As well as players who can play 3-4 different positions on the field.

 

The main argument against is he won't be "as engaged" or hit as well in the DH position.

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How about we have a poll, do you want Jose Abreu to start at 1b for the White Sox in 2018/19, or do you prefer he DH for the overall good of a young/developing team?

 

I mean, we'd be better off spending this whole offseason preparing Avi Garcia to play there, in all likelihood. Don't even need to make an acquisition.

How about we have a poll, do you want Jose Abreu to start at 1b for the White Sox in 2018/19, or do you prefer he DH for the overall good of a young/developing team?

 

I mean, we'd be better off spending this whole offseason preparing Avi Garcia to play there, in all likelihood. Don't even need to make an acquisition.

 

I vote: Abreu DH without signing a 1B.

It's crazy to deliberately play one of the worst 1b in all of baseball there....for the reasons of keeping him happy, so we can lose more games for draft position?

 

And we can't acknowledge the benefits to Anderson and Moncada of having someone they could feel confident in throwing to?

That the fewer errors on the infield, the better off our young pitchers will be?

 

Didn't anyone watch the 2015/16/17 (Cubs, Royals, Indians) seasons to understand how defense/shifts are revolutionizing the game? As well as players who can play 3-4 different positions on the field.

 

The main argument against is he won't be "as engaged" or hit as well in the DH position.

 

If there is a position where you can play a negative defender and not have it hurt you too badly, 1B is the spot. It is the least important defensive position on the field. A plus defender adds far less than at other positions, and a bad defender doesn't hurt as much.

This thread has offically gone full Caulfield...

Seriously, this thread needs some ritalin.

How about we have a poll, do you want Jose Abreu to start at 1b for the White Sox in 2018/19, or do you prefer he DH for the overall good of a young/developing team?

 

I mean, we'd be better off spending this whole offseason preparing Avi Garcia to play there, in all likelihood. Don't even need to make an acquisition.

 

There is zero need to do jack s*** other than keeping trotting out Jose at 1B for the rest of the year and re-evaluate things come next February. If you have to have the talk with him about moving to DH for the good of the club then you do it.

 

Acquiring veteran 1B is a pretty dumb thing to do in general, but it's even dumber when you are where the Sox are on the win curve.

 

The Sox already have a number of good candidates to take over 1B.

 

As soon as August we might even be seeing an IF with Yolmer at 3B (his arm looks strong enough now, that double play last night proved it imo), TA at short, with Moncada at 2B and Delmonico/Davidson/Abreu at 1B.

 

 

This thread has offically gone full Caulfield...

 

Never go full Caulfield.

What happened to Alexei's defense in 2010 when Vizquel was playing 3B next to him?

 

You're telling me that whether you have Abreu or Brandon Belt over there, it makes no appreciable difference to the middle infielders?

 

For our defensive results, sure. Not in player development, no. And if it does, then they aren't mentally ready for the Majors.

Never go full Caulfield.

Lol

Okay, every single time Abreu makes a mental or physical error, the reply will be "SoxTalk says it doesn't matter." Trademark pending.

 

Also, that it's okay to poke fun at posters by insinuating they are mentally-challenged or have mental retardation...for those who aren't familiar with I Am Sam. So when we say, don't go Full Greg775, it's perfectly in keeping with the no personal attacks pledge at SoxTalk. Also, saying perhaps it's better to go half-Greg775 so you can garner votes from the Academy. Glad that's all cleared up for future reference.

Edited June 21, 20178 yr by caulfield12

Okay, every single time Abreu makes a mental or physical error, the reply will be "SoxTalk says it doesn't matter." Trademark pending.

 

Also, that it's okay to poke fun at posters by insinuating they are mentally-challenged or have mental retardation...for those who aren't familiar with I Am Sam. So when we say, don't go Full Greg775, it's perfectly in keeping with the no personal attacks pledge at SoxTalk. Also, saying perhaps it's better to go half-Greg775 so you can garner votes from the Academy. Glad that's all cleared up for future reference.

 

You have a history of going off topic, and this topic bounced from one thing to another so fast that I couldn't keep any sense of it. That's all people are insinuating.

You have a history of going off topic, and this topic bounced from one thing to another so fast that I couldn't keep any sense of it. That's all people are insinuating.

That's 100% all I was insinuating.

How about we have a poll, do you want Jose Abreu to start at 1b for the White Sox in 2018/19, or do you prefer he DH for the overall good of a young/developing team?

I vote Abreu DH.