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2018 Democrats thread

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  • I love voter shaming.  If you don't like our garbage candidates then you are entitled.  Not, maybe we should give people something to vote for.  I mean it's worked so well over the past 8 years.

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    This is the Democrat thread, we don't need your party's official slogan.

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    lol buddy I've been compromising my values by voting D in every election since I was of voting age. I'll be the first to argue that voting is a utilitarian exercise in harm reduction rather than an op

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 20, 2018 -> 07:58 PM)
Another Trump district pickup for Democrats, this time in Kansas

 

https://t.co/ZZ5TfeKTA0

 

Kentucky

FL Lawmaker's aide fired after claiming students are actors

 

Benjamin Kelly, who worked as district secretary for Florida State Rep. Shawn Harrison, emailed a Tampa Bay Times journalist with a message that read: "Both kids in the picture are not students here but actors that travel to various crisis when they happen."

http://www.kvia.com/news/politics/lawmaker...ctors/705151770

 

 

Bernie now trying to undercut the Mueller probe, after voting against Russia sanctions... Hm... who else agrees with both of those positions?

 

"Sanders and his former campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, presented a series of self-serving statements that were not accurate, and that track with efforts by Trump and his supporters to undermine the credibility of the Mueller probe."

 

This whole article is - honestly - insane. Definitely worth the read. Especially if you're in the Bernie camp.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/b...rference-420528

Edited by Reddy

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 22, 2018 -> 08:42 PM)
Bernie now trying to undercut the Mueller probe, after voting against Russia sanctions... Hm... who else agrees with both of those positions?

 

 

 

This whole article is - honestly - insane. Definitely worth the read. Especially if you're in the Bernie camp.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/b...rference-420528

 

Sanders is losing influence...because all the focus is on Biden and even Oprah.

 

Biden would be hard for the progressive side to top. But two establishment figures risk fracturing the party unless they finally compromise and at least go with one for VP.

 

It would be Biden/Harris or Booker, but lots will change. I do feel it needs to be a younger pairing for a candidate nearing 80.

Edited by caulfield12

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 22, 2018 -> 08:42 PM)
Bernie now trying to undercut the Mueller probe, after voting against Russia sanctions... Hm... who else agrees with both of those positions?

 

 

 

This whole article is - honestly - insane. Definitely worth the read. Especially if you're in the Bernie camp.

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/b...rference-420528

 

 

This is garbage. He didn't vote for the Russia sanctions because he was protecting the Iran deal. He must a Russian agent for protecting something Obama did.

 

 

This whole "everyone is a Russian agent" stuff is toxic.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Feb 23, 2018 -> 09:21 AM)
This is garbage. He didn't vote for the Russia sanctions because he was protecting the Iran deal. He must a Russian agent for protecting something Obama did.

 

 

This whole "everyone is a Russian agent" stuff is toxic.

Only when it affects the guy you like, though, right?

Anywho, have us democrats come up with anybody better than Biden? Fully believe he can beat Trump in 2020, which is literally the only thing democrats need to be concerned about when it comes to presidential candidates.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Feb 23, 2018 -> 11:09 PM)
Anywho, have us democrats come up with anybody better than Biden? Fully believe he can beat Trump in 2020, which is literally the only thing democrats need to be concerned about when it comes to presidential candidates.

Gillibrand.

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Feb 23, 2018 -> 11:58 PM)
Gillibrand.

 

She talks the right game, but just sees to be missing a certain “it” factor, charisma, energy...like the feeling the first time I heard Obama, Mario Cuomo, Bill Clinton speak in person, that they really could be president.

 

Hillary never possessed it, either. Almost like magic, although that term gets way overused, like breaking the internet.

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QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Feb 24, 2018 -> 12:58 AM)
Gillibrand.

She would lose.

 

Every attack used against Hillary could equally be used against her. They even look enough alike. I've never experienced a more calculating, methodical, power-hungry person than Gillibrand. Don't get me wrong, I think she's great. But she's the epitome of a political opportunist, and has had her sites set on the Presidency from the moment she chose which district in NY to move to, because she wanted to pick the one where she'd have the best chance of winning.

 

I don't think - if you're trying to go for authenticity - she'll do the Democratic Party any favors.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Feb 24, 2018 -> 11:02 AM)
She would lose.

 

Every attack used against Hillary could equally be used against her. They even look enough alike. I've never experienced a more calculating, methodical, power-hungry person than Gillibrand. Don't get me wrong, I think she's great. But she's the epitome of a political opportunist, and has had her sites set on the Presidency from the moment she chose which district in NY to move to, because she wanted to pick the one where she'd have the best chance of winning.

 

I don't think - if you're trying to go for authenticity - she'll do the Democratic Party any favors.

Okay, then who do you and Caufield think would win then? I can’t see Warren beating Trump and I’m not so sure Bernie is the best bet either.

 

Personally, and I know it wouldn’t happen, but a Hickenlooper/Kasich ticket would appeal to me. A purple ticket of sorts.

Edited by New Era on South Side

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Feb 24, 2018 -> 04:12 PM)
Okay, then who do you and Caufield think would win then? I can’t see Warren beating Trump and I’m not so sure Bernie is the best bet either.

 

Personally, and I know it wouldn’t happen, but a Hickenlooper/Kasich ticket would appeal to me. A purple ticket of sorts.

 

That wont appeal to Reddy, haha.

 

Biden is the best bet right now, depending on if it’s Trump or possibly Pence or Ryan running.

 

Booker is growing on me, but I don’t know if we can handle 2 years of Obama comparisons.

Harris or Sherrod Brown as VP, maybe. Murphy/CT is growing in stature. Joe Kennedy.

 

I don’t think Kasich would accept running as VP. Would have to be him at top of ticket. Dems would never vote for him due to conservative social issues stance, economics, he has a lot of good points.

I bet Trump runs again, even if he is approaching the normal life expectancy at that point. Pence is even more sick than Trump is. I would love to see another woman run but actually win, which is why I mentioned Gillibrand. The only person I could see winning right now is Biden.

I meant if Mueller brings down Jared, Don Jr., etc. impeachment won’t happen unless the House flips in November, but nothing should surprise us by now.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 24, 2018 -> 09:27 AM)
She talks the right game, but just sees to be missing a certain “it” factor, charisma, energy...like the feeling the first time I heard Obama, Mario Cuomo, Bill Clinton speak in person, that they really could be president.

 

Hillary never possessed it, either. Almost like magic, although that term gets way overused, like breaking the internet.

If Hillary was 10 years younger I bet she'd try again. If Trump is the opponent, he's gonna be easily defeated cause of the fact he's despised by just about everybody.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 24, 2018 -> 11:23 PM)
If Hillary was 10 years younger I bet she'd try again. If Trump is the opponent, he's gonna be easily defeated cause of the fact he's despised by just about everybody.

 

After running terrible campaigns in 2008 and 2016, toast.

 

Plus, her husband is now right in the middle of the #metoo rape/harassment storm.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 25, 2018 -> 12:23 AM)
If Hillary was 10 years younger I bet she'd try again. If Trump is the opponent, he's gonna be easily defeated cause of the fact he's despised by just about everybody.

Trump will not be easily defeated.

 

Biden's age is such a huge concern, but he's leading in every poll. Otherwise, Booker and Murphy are coming on strong lately, but usually, the nominee is someone we're not even talking about at this point. There are a lot of wildcards out there. *clenches fists and whispers "Martin O'Malley" to himself*

In 2020 I think the Dems have to get someone not so serious about being POTUS to run in the primaries, and just be like Trump, only fire away at Trump. Take all the potshots. He's easy to rile up. Why don't Dems take advantage of this? Make him go off the deep end. Take the shots. Talk about Trump U, Stormy Daniels, Russians, his stupid offspring, all the hits. Call his lackeys president Jared or president Kelly or whoever is around then. Make fun of Ivanka speaking whisper. Talk about his fake marriage. His admitted sexual abuse. Everything. He. Can't. Take. It. It's low and dirty, but enough playing fair.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2018 -> 07:56 AM)
In 2020 I think the Dems have to get someone not so serious about being POTUS to run in the primaries, and just be like Trump, only fire away at Trump. Take all the potshots. He's easy to rile up. Why don't Dems take advantage of this? Make him go off the deep end. Take the shots. Talk about Trump U, Stormy Daniels, Russians, his stupid offspring, all the hits. Call his lackeys president Jared or president Kelly or whoever is around then. Make fun of Ivanka speaking whisper. Talk about his fake marriage. His admitted sexual abuse. Everything. He. Can't. Take. It. It's low and dirty, but enough playing fair.

Mark Cuban?

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