Just now, fathom said:

Might have been Jeff Sullivan but within 24 hours of the deal, Bernstein had someone on the radio talking about how bad his fastball spin rate was.  

I do remember some discussion about his spin rate at the time, I'm just not convinced the Nats were thinking about it.

FWIW, low spin rate is associated with more movement and higher ground ball rates. What we used to call guys with a "heavy" ball turn out to have lower spin rates. A common thought from the get-go was that the worst thing would be to have typical spin rate because that's what hitters' eyes are most attuned to.

There goes the perfect game. Yoan walks.

Watching the pitcher bat is what I have really been missing. What a thrill kill. 

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

I do remember some discussion about his spin rate at the time, I'm just not convinced the Nats were thinking about it.

FWIW, low spin rate is associated with more movement and higher ground ball rates. What we used to call guys with a "heavy" ball turn out to have lower spin rates. A common thought from the get-go was that the worst thing would be to have typical spin rate because that's what hitters' eyes are most attuned to.

Off topic but I discovered baseball savant game feed.  It's fantastic

5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

 

Here you go. His spin rate is marginally better than Giolito. This is over the entirety of 2018.

But what is in 2017?

5 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Yet he also said Dane Dunning is garbage.. 

I'm just glad the kid is hitting 95-96 again. Gives me hope he can harness the other pitches (the curve especially) and possibly go even higher. 

Exactly.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

But what is in 2017?

Not sure spin rate he had a positive fastball pitch value last year. It was 1.0 I think. This year it's almost negative 13.

ON a side note, congrats to the Cincinnati Reds for winning the Frazier trade by about 10 miles.

Dodgers lost talent wise in the trade
Sox basically lost opportunity cost.

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by GreenSox

Hrm.  Where was that strike? Shoulda been a punch out.

12 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Yet he also said Dane Dunning is garbage.. 

I'm just glad the kid is hitting 95-96 again. Gives me hope he can harness the other pitches (the curve especially) and possibly go even higher. 

I told you guys, Gio/Lopez made me do some data-driven research on stuff. 

These are spin rates on guys who get a lot of whiffs on fastballs 

MLB average(rpm) 2263

Verlander: 2606 

Sale: 2332

Kluber: 2610

Scherzer: 2497

Kershaw: 2388

Cole: 2345

Severino: 2370

See anything in common with the Ace quality group?

Sox Pitchers that matter:

Rodon: 2243

Giolito: 2073

Lopez: 2092

 

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

Maybe if he changed his name around to Giolito Lucas. 

Notice how much velocity and command falls apart from the stretch?  Velocity down 2-3 mph.

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Notice how much velocity and command falls apart from the stretch?  Velocity down 2-3 mph.

One thing I noticed about Giolito since he got his fastball velocity back is that he struggles  with command in the 1st inning, and once his pitch count gets around 90.  If he can get out of the first inning unscathed, he usually gives a good start numbers wise. If he gets killed in the 1st, he doesn't. He fixes the 1st inning jitters, I think he'll be okay. 

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

Avi ends the no hitter. 

And extends his hitting streak to 13.

What's up with Palka always hitting cheapies? 

10 minutes ago, pcq said:

Maybe if he changed his name around to Giolito Lucas. 

I always liked him better when he was Lucas Zapata.

Just now, SoxAce said:

What's up with Palka always hitting cheapies? 

109 exit velo and 448 ft cheapie

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

109 exit velo and 448 ft cheapie

Almost cleared that wall

2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

109 exit velo and 448 ft cheapie

Pssssh. So cheap.

27 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

But what is in 2017?

I found it on MLB site after some digging. Lopez had an average spin rate of 2105 RPM in 2017. Averaging 2092 in 2018. 

Giolito had a 2115 RPM in 2017. 

Edited July 4, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

Just missed allowing homer to pitcher. Looked like he took some off his fastball...bad idea

If Gio gets out of the 5th unscathed and his pitch count is over 90, they need to go to the pen at that point. 

Nice snag by Timmy 

Tim Anderson certainly has been a bright spot this year. I also like that he rubs people the wrong way. Especially the fun police crowd.

1 minute ago, DirtySox said:

Tim Anderson certainly has been a bright spot this year. I also like that he rubs people the wrong way. Especially the fun police crowd.

Yep would love to see 25/25 from him