greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, soxfan2014 said: Nope. Literally no one has suggested this. So what veterans do you want?? A pitcher or two? You certainly don't want any of our current vet hitters except maybe a Yolmer or somebody like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I've always liked Hector even when he has lousy nights. Maybe it's wrong of me but I am a Hector supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, greg775 said: I'm saying you guys are going to say he sucks even if he hits .330 with 30 bombs next year leading into his new contract. You'll still all find the flaws. He's never going to be worth more than 10 mill a year to the majority of this board. So just sign him for 10-12 mill a year when the time comes for 4 years or so. Nobody's going to pay him more than that. he's too flawed according to the stat people even with the traditional numbers on his side. If he hits .330 with 30 HR’s then sure lock him up, but why in the world is that a realistic expectation? His career high for HR’s is 18 and his .330 season last year was driven by a flukey .396. BABIP. He’s gotten better but he’s still a flawed player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, greg775 said: I've always liked Hector even when he has lousy nights. Maybe it's wrong of me but I am a Hector supporter. greg, sometimes you have to remember that just because we don't think a guy is a good long term fit for a team, or because we don't think they are an especially great player, doesn't mean we don't like them or want them to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, greg775 said: So what veterans do you want?? A pitcher or two? You certainly don't want any of our current vet hitters except maybe a Yolmer or somebody like that. You're talking to someone who is actually fine with them locking up Abreu. I know he likely wouldn't bring a lot back since 1B usually doesn't bring a haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Tim - run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Heads22 said: Tim - run. Yup, at this point you’ve got to be aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Steal on a pitchout, delicious. Great, great slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 And there it is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You really hate Avi that much after a 2 HR game and 6 in the last 10 days ? I guess a walk or 2 and less HR's doubles and triples would make you happy . Yeah, totally. Not sure if you've been following the White Sox much the past five years. But if you were, it would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Good slide. We kind of got lucky on the pitchout but Tim is fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, greg775 said: I'm saying you guys are going to say he sucks even if he hits .330 with 30 bombs next year leading into his new contract. You'll still all find the flaws. He's never going to be worth more than 10 mill a year to the majority of this board. So just sign him for 10-12 mill a year when the time comes for 4 years or so. Nobody's going to pay him more than that. he's too flawed according to the stat people even with the traditional numbers on his side. If someone says he sucks after that they're either joking, trolling, or both. If Avi shows signs that he has in fact turned the corner and last year wasn't just an aberration, then yes I'd be for extending him. Eventually you'll need to keep some guys, and Avi is still a young dude. I wouldn't give him 8 years or anything crazy, but I think something in the 3-5 range could be a worthy investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Do we see a bunt here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Heads22 said: Do we see a bunt here? Sure do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Wow, they’re actually bunting. I hate Ricky Renteri so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: If he hits .330 with 30 HR’s then sure lock him up, but why in the world is that a realistic expectation? His career high for HR’s is 18 and his .330 season last year was driven by a flukey .396. BABIP. He’s gotten better but he’s still a flawed player. I understand the concept of BABIP . What I don't understand is why when someone does so well with a high BABIP and the resulting high batting average it's flukey and a negative while the person with the low BABIP and resulting bad batting average is unlucky. Well I do get it but it's turning a positive into a negative and a negative into a positive, I'll just take the positive results if you all don't mind. The rest of you can use BABIP to predict regression and all that . I'll just take the better "luck" every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 it worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 That was a nice bunt. Sometimes (I guess) certain lighthitting hitters that know how to bunt (might) best be served bunting. Though I despise the bunt, even late in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I don't think we're gonna score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I understand the concept of BABIP . What I don't understand is why when someone does so well with a high BABIP and the resulting high batting average it's flukey and a negative while the person with the low BABIP and resulting bad batting average is unlucky. Well I do get it but it's turning a positive into a negative and a negative into a positive, I'll just take the positive results if you all don't mind. The rest of you can use BABIP to predict regression and all that . I'll just take the better "luck" every time. You can do whatever you want, but I’m not going to ignore the fact Avi’s BABIP last year would have been a good 40 points higher than the highest career averages in the past few decades. But hey, to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Feel like Yoan either walks or K's looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2-0. This pitcher blows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Yeah, totally. Not sure if you've been following the White Sox much the past five years. But if you were, it would make sense. SOrry can't hate a guy at all when has a phenomenal year . It's not easy in todays game to hit .330 with all the shifts Look at what they're to to Bryce Harper batting average and yeah I know its only batting average. But there's a lot to be said for a guy who hits rockets everywhere so thy cant really shift on him. You call it BABIP but they used to call it "hitting them where they aint' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 YOAN!!! HELL YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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