Granted we are rebuilding but almost everything went backwards this year. We found Palka, Lopez strong finish and TA's glove. 

Rodon is a turd

Rodon probably hurt , 14 runs 3.0 innings not right , unless you're throwing batting practice 

16 minutes ago, fathom said:

They never announced that

Yesterday or thereabouts, somebody on this forum claimed that and nobody contradicted him.

Rodon wasn't missing bats before the last few games where he has imploded.

Certainly don't expect the Sox FO to meet an Astros, Brewers, As, Braves, Rockies, Phillies (despite the collapse) rebuild timetable. That would mean 2020 (and in some cases 2019) and would be completely unfair.

Edited September 30, 20187 yr by GreenSox

6 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Rodon wasn't missing bats before the last few games where he has imploded.

Certainly don't expect the Sox FO to meet an Astros, Brewers, As, Braves, Rockies, Phillies (despite the collapse) rebuild timetable. That would mean 2020 (and in some cases 2019) and would be completely unfair.

2020 was unfair the day Kopech got hurt. If Kopech was a true ace at the top of the rotation, Kopech in full year 2, Lopez, Rodon, Giolito, and Cease and others as rookies - that's a rotation that could be the best in the league. That's a rotation that could be great. Rodon, Lopez, Giolito, a recovering Kopech, and Cease and Rookies at the back - that could be a tolerable rotation, but it's not carrying you to the playoffs, so you better have a great offense and defense, and we won't. 

So, If Rodon becomes tradeable for the right price next year, that's why moving him is the right move. 

Except for the draft pick, there's almost nothing to be excited about in the offseason, other than Jimenez.

Hopefully the Royals are dumb enough to pass on (B)adley to the Bone, but Sal Perez is already a few years past his prime to be Royals to be considering position foremost with the #2.

Well, at least there's the Brewers to cheer for?

 

So the Sox commercial states the best is yet to come.  I would hope so considering  95 losses last year, 99 or 100 this year. 

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

2020 was unfair the day Kopech got hurt. If Kopech was a true ace at the top of the rotation, Kopech in full year 2, Lopez, Rodon, Giolito, and Cease and others as rookies - that's a rotation that could be the best in the league. That's a rotation that could be great. Rodon, Lopez, Giolito, a recovering Kopech, and Cease and Rookies at the back - that could be a tolerable rotation, but it's not carrying you to the playoffs, so you better have a great offense and defense, and we won't. 

Covey has just as good a shot as Giolito at this point...

Right now, there's no life on this team, just a bunch of stiffs out there.

53 minutes ago, Insp said:

This is what happens when you announce that the entire coaching staff, along with the worthless manager, will be brought back next year.

 

Total demoralization and a guarantee that next year will be even worse than this one.

Where do you get this crap from?

This is not the way I wanted the season to end. Very frustrating 

I’ve had enough of the Carlos Rodon experience. We could have gotten something for him at the deadline. He didn’t fit the timeline anyway. 

2 minutes ago, Baker said:

I’ve had enough of the Carlos Rodon experience. We could have gotten something for him at the deadline. He didn’t fit the timeline anyway. 

What do you mean he didn't fit the timeline?

His walk year is 2021. Probably before the team is very good. 

Really inspired finish to the season. Ricky’s voice is really resonating.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

They never announced that

Hahn said in an interview that he was pleased with the coaching staff 

25 minutes ago, Baker said:

I’ve had enough of the Carlos Rodon experience. We could have gotten something for him at the deadline. He didn’t fit the timeline anyway. 

He will be a major part of the rotation moving ahead . My concern is if he is injured 

If he’s been pitching injured there needs to be an inquiry. 

Matt Davidson has a .602 OPS vs. teams over .500.

14 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

He will be a major part of the rotation moving ahead . My concern is if he is injured 

I very much disagree that he will be a major rotation part. If he's a major rotation part, it's for 2021 alone and nothing else because then he'll hit free agency and as I said above, I seriously doubt the 2020 roster. The only way he's re-signable is if he isn't better than a mid-rotation starter, which is what he is right now.

49 minutes ago, Baker said:

I’ve had enough of the Carlos Rodon experience. We could have gotten something for him at the deadline. He didn’t fit the timeline anyway. 

Lol, who was giving up something of substance for him coming off a long injury? This is baseless. 

Hopefully the rebuild management, scouting and player development this off-season , long overdue.

50 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

Hahn said in an interview that he was pleased with the coaching staff 

What exactly is he pleased about? The under-performing prospects? The bad fundamentals? The team mailing it in?