February 23, 20197 yr Red Ruffing is another one. As a 42 year old, in the final stop of an HOF career, he put up a 6.11 ERA in 53 IP. Famous Cub Johnny Evers went hitless in 3 ABs at the age of 40 in 1922. Larry Doby's second tour with us was, umm...bad. .560 OPS in 21 games. His first time was shit hot though. George Davis played the last six years of his career in Chicago from 1904-1909. He never broke a .700 OPS with us, but in the earlier years with the NY Giants which launched him into the HOF, his cumulative OPS was .860.
February 23, 20197 yr 4 hours ago, Peacock Wrestler said: I can see the argument for Frazier, but not Dunn. You can't go from batting around .250 for most of your career then bat .220 for the rest of your career without regressing. Dunn ran into the phenom of bullpen guys throwing in the mid-90's. It was not like that when he started.
February 23, 20197 yr 27 minutes ago, pcq said: Dunn ran into the phenom of bullpen guys throwing in the mid-90's. It was not like that when he started. It was a lot more than that, especially in his first year. There were some major physical issues with him, maybe some emotional ones, and that had to be part of why his numbers were never the same again. You don't put up one of the worst offensive seasons in MLB history because relievers threw a little harder than the year before.
February 23, 20197 yr 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: It was a lot more than that, especially in his first year. There were some major physical issues with him, maybe some emotional ones, and that had to be part of why his numbers were never the same again. You don't put up one of the worst offensive seasons in MLB history because relievers threw a little harder than the year before. Wasn’t it something like appendicitis, or his kid’s health...or those were separate years? He went from 900+ to mid 500’s and NY Times headlines about the historicity of his ineptitude.
February 23, 20197 yr 12 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Tom Seaver Seaver pitched around 2.5 years with the Sox .Won his 300th game with us and his 1st 2 years were good even though he was 39 and 40. For his 300th he pitched a complete game in Yankees Stadium and the Sox won 4-1 in front of 54,000 fans including Commissioner Peter Ueberroth and Richard Nixon. He pitched out of jams in the 8th and 9th with the Yankee crowd chanting "Seaver Seaver Seaver".With the final out he lept into Carlton Fisk's arms. The 4-1 scored matched his uniform number 41. At 39 he pitched 236.3 innings and at 40 238.2. His record in those years was a combined 31-22 His WHIP's and FIP's were both solid. That was a great game. Edited February 23, 20197 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
February 23, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Seaver pitched around 2.5 years with the Sox .Won his 300th game with us and his 1st 2 years were good even though he was 39 and 40. For his 300th he pitched a complete game in Yankees Stadium and the Sox won 4-1 in front of 54,000 fans including Commissioner Peter Ueberroth and Richard Nixon. He pitched out of jams in the 8th and 9th with the Yankee crowd chanting "Seaver Seaver Seaver".With the final out he lept into Carlton Fisk's arms. The 4-1 scored matched his uniform number 41. At 39 he pitched 236.3 innings and at 40 238.2. His record in those years was a combined 31-22 His WHIP's and FIP's were both solid. That was a great game. Surreal to see Hermie, Ozzie, Leyland, LaRussa....as soon as I saw Joe Brinkman, Hawk’s voice came immediately into my head.
February 23, 20197 yr 12 hours ago, Hatchetman said: Dave Stieb Atlee Hammaker I remember Dave Stieb always dominated the Sox and after we got him he wasn't worth a damn.
February 23, 20197 yr I’ll never forget the additions of Steve Carlton and George Foster. What great memories.
February 23, 20197 yr 15 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Cory Snyder and Steve Sax Omar Vizquel and Roberto Remember the Alomar Ellis Burks Mike Devereaux Alomar Jr. too many times to count Manny Ramirez Dale Sveum Billy Joe Robidoux Shawn Lil Abner McKay Christensen Bartolo Colon James Shields Royce Clayton Derek Holland Mat Latos I forgot a couple of those names. Maybe Dale Sveum can be their next manager.
February 23, 20197 yr Jon Jay, Yonder Alonso, James McCann, Ervin Santana, Ivan Nova, Kelvin Herrera. Edited February 23, 20197 yr by Dick Allen
February 23, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Jon Jay, Yonder Alonso, James McCann, Ervin Santana, Ivan Nova, Kelvin Herrera. You forgot Colome and Guyer...
February 23, 20197 yr Ellis Burks wasn't washed up he went on and had good seasons for Colorado and San Francisco.
February 23, 20197 yr 20 hours ago, Peacock Wrestler said: Even though Santana is only a year removed from a decent season, I can't help to think that the Sox FO loves getting older, washed up veterans. Imagine all these guys in their primes: C- Sandy Alomar Jr. 1B- Adam Dunn or Justin Morneau 2B- Roberto Alomar SS- Jimmy Rollins 3B- Todd Frazier LF- Manny Ramirez CF- Ken Griffey Jr. RF- Jose Canseco SP- Ervin Santana Bench- Melky Cabrera Bench-Kevin Youkilis Bench: Kenny Lofton Feel free to add more. These are just the names off the top of my head. I'd have to take melke off your list and add Darren Erstad instead.
February 23, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, zisk said: I'd have to take melke off your list and add Darren Erstad instead. Darin Erstad wasn't washed up. He was the player he had always been outside of his one career year. He sucked.
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