3 hours ago, Dominikk85 said:

Don't like the draft changes but which manfred rules are bad?

Instant replay?

Catcher collisions banned?

DP Brake up slide banned?

Second wildcard?

No pitch IBB?

3 batter minimum?

26th roster spot?

Pitch clock?

I like most of those rules. Manfred is a puppet of the owners and I'm not a big fan but I don't hate most of the actual rule changes of his era so far. Jury is still out on the changes he likely will be like international draft or robot ump but I don't think those will be bad either.

To each his own, but I dislike all the rules I bolded

The idea of robot umps and the extra innings experiment in the minors makes me sick as well

Leave the game alone

I love all the rules except probably the catcher collisions.  That was fun and happened once every great while. They need to speed this game up otherwise it will die with the younger generation

I see James posted his mock so I'll post mine.  I had to drop Ed.  He's going to be hurt the most if they don't play this spring.

 

1. Detroit	Austin Martin	OF	Vandy
2. Baltimore	Spencer Torkelson	1B	Arizona St
3. Miami	Asa Lacy	LHP	Texas A&M
4. Kansas City	Emerson Hancock	RHP	Georgia
5. Toronto	Zac Veen	OF	Spruce Creek HS
6. Seattle	Reid Detmers	LHP	Louisville
7. Pittsburgh	Nick Gonzales	2B	New Mexico St
8. San Diego	Max Meyer	RHP	Minnesota
9. Colorado	Garrett Crochet	LHP	Tennessee
10. LA Angels	Patrick Bailey	C	NC State
11. Chicago WS	Cade Cavalli	RHP	Oklahoma
12. Cincinnati	Heston Kjerstad	OF	Arkansas
13. San Francisco	Mick Abel	RHP	Jesuit HS
14. Texas	Pete Crow Armstrong	OF	Harvard Westlake HS
15. Philadelphia	Cole Wilcox	RHP	Georgia
16. Chicago Cubs	Jared Kelley	RHP	Refugio HS
17. Boston	Austin Hendrick	OF	West Allegheny HS
18. Arizona	Ed Howard	SS	Mt Carmel
19. NY Mets	Robert Hassell	OF	Independance HS
20. Milwaukee	Carmen Mlodzinski	RHP	South Carolina
21. St Louis	Tyler Soderstrom	C	Turlock HS
22. Washington	Garrett Mitchell	OF	UCLA
23. Cleveland	Nick Bitsko	RHP	Central Bucks HS
24. Tampa Bay	Justin Lange	RHP	Llano HS
25. Atlanta	Tommy Mace	RHP	Florida
26. Oakland	Bryce Jarvis	RHP	Duke
27. Minnesota	Dylan Crews	OF	Lake St Mary's HS
28. NY Yankees	Clayton Beeter	RHP	Texas Tech
29. LA Dodgers	Bobby Miller	RHP	Louisville

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm still not sure how this impacts the talent taken...Obviously only 5 rounds now, but aren't HS kids most likely going to at least JuCo now? Who else is impacted? Spring athletes gain another year of eligibility in NCAA

16 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said:

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm still not sure how this impacts the talent taken...Obviously only 5 rounds now, but aren't HS kids most likely going to at least JuCo now? Who else is impacted? Spring athletes gain another year of eligibility in NCAA

The juniors are the most impacted but they got good news. The top players will still get paid as always. It's important that these guys got an extra year of eligibility though. Now the juniors can return to school and be juniors again. If they had to return as seniors next year, they'd have absolutely no leverage and would likely accepting much less than they'd normally get to go pro. This won't really impact the seniors at all. They have no leverage. They'll most likely sign from $5-$20K like they normally would. If the draft is 10 rounds though, guys in 11-40 were able to sign for $125K before. Now, anyone not drafted is limited to $20K which is a joke. More high school guys will go to college for sure but not the very top ones. The other issue is the deferred bonus payments. A player like Spencer Torkelson will receive $8 million or so. He gets $100K right now plus $4 million in 2021 and $4 million in 2022. 

Here's my mock draft btw: http://futuresox.com/2020/03/31/2020-mlb-mock-draft-1-0/

I really only liked Veen and Detmers, seems everyone has them out before 11. Then Abel, then Kelley.

Masyn Winn in second round still, or alejandro rosario

My guys are Veen, Detmers, and Meyer currently.

I think I need to read/see more of Cavalli. Law is higher on him then BA.

1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

The juniors are the most impacted but they got good news. The top players will still get paid as always. It's important that these guys got an extra year of eligibility though. Now the juniors can return to school and be juniors again. If they had to return as seniors next year, they'd have absolutely no leverage and would likely accepting much less than they'd normally get to go pro. This won't really impact the seniors at all. They have no leverage. They'll most likely sign from $5-$20K like they normally would. If the draft is 10 rounds though, guys in 11-40 were able to sign for $125K before. Now, anyone not drafted is limited to $20K which is a joke. More high school guys will go to college for sure but not the very top ones. The other issue is the deferred bonus payments. A player like Spencer Torkelson will receive $8 million or so. He gets $100K right now plus $4 million in 2021 and $4 million in 2022. 

The issue is will the team give them the scholarships to stay. The money from their scholarships has already been allocated to a new athlete for next year. Will the school increase the scholarship money by that same amount or will the athletes have to pay? Also there is rumors going around it may only apply to seniors so the juniors may return but return as seniors.

Many athletes may not be able to afford to stay in school.

The first round HS talents (i.e toolsy players with advanced playability and mechanics) will sign anyway, especially since there is speculation of the next draft being shorter too and colleges will have a crunch too with extra eligibility.

The guys who will not sign is the high upside more raw/flawed guys who would have been taken like 50-100th overall in the draft.

32 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said:

The first round HS talents (i.e toolsy players with advanced playability and mechanics) will sign anyway, especially since there is speculation of the next draft being shorter too and colleges will have a crunch too with extra eligibility.

The guys who will not sign is the high upside more raw/flawed guys who would have been taken like 50-100th overall in the draft.

Yep and the HS guys hoping to get drafted who are comitted to mid-majors will end up at JC's and hope to get picked next year.  I'm surprised the NCAA granted a year to everyone but it doesn't help their pro prospects any.  They will just be a year older and teams that use models do not like older players.  

48 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

My guys are Veen, Detmers, and Meyer currently.

I think I need to read/see more of Cavalli. Law is higher on him then BA.

Meyer scares me.  Undersized right hander with a violent delivery.  The Sox have been down that road before.  Fool me once.....

4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

The juniors are the most impacted but they got good news. The top players will still get paid as always. It's important that these guys got an extra year of eligibility though. Now the juniors can return to school and be juniors again. If they had to return as seniors next year, they'd have absolutely no leverage and would likely accepting much less than they'd normally get to go pro. This won't really impact the seniors at all. They have no leverage. They'll most likely sign from $5-$20K like they normally would. If the draft is 10 rounds though, guys in 11-40 were able to sign for $125K before. Now, anyone not drafted is limited to $20K which is a joke. More high school guys will go to college for sure but not the very top ones. The other issue is the deferred bonus payments. A player like Spencer Torkelson will receive $8 million or so. He gets $100K right now plus $4 million in 2021 and $4 million in 2022. 

Much appreciated

Here's Cavalli.  He's a big ole nasty son of a gun.  That's Tanner Allen wearing him out.  It's going to be interesting to see if he gets drafted this year.  

On 3/31/2020 at 4:44 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Here's my mock draft btw: http://futuresox.com/2020/03/31/2020-mlb-mock-draft-1-0/

Most of the pubs I've read suggest 11 might be a tad high for Howard due to less developed hit tool. Any chance of floating him to 2nd round? Maybe grab Abel if Detmers is gone by 11?

Howard is the best HS SS in the counrty. There's no way they can get him to the 2nd round.  

So assuming Howard, Detmers and Abel are available at 11, who do WS take, if any? 

Detmers.  Would be shocked if he's available at 11.  

On 4/11/2020 at 9:26 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Detmers.  Would be shocked if he's available at 11.  

I've heard Pirates are on Detmers. College guys are going to rise. Especially this year. 

BA updated draft rankings. Posting the top 15. Also a blurb showing the biggest upward movers.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2020-mlb-draft-top-prospects/

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1.) Austin Martin

2.) Spencer Torkelson

3.) Asa Lacy

4.) Emerson Hancock

5.) Nick Gonzales

6.) Garret Mitchell

7.)  Zac Veen

8.) Reid Detmers

9.) Austin Hendrick

10.) Max Meyer

11.) Jared Kelley

12.) Mick Abel

13.) Garrett Crochet

14.) Patrick Bailey

15.) Heston Kjerstad

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No. 22 Cade Cavalli, RHP, Oklahoma (+10)

No. 37 Dillon Dingler, C, Ohio State (+38)

No. 45 Bryce Jarvis, RHP, Duke (+36)

No. 47 Jared Shuster, LHP, Wake Forest (+29)

No. 69 Kyle Nicolas, RHP, Ball State (+17)

No. 87 Nick Yorke, SS, Archbishop Mitty HS, San Jose, Calif. (+177)

No. 94 Anthony Servideo, SS, Mississippi (+62)

No. 98 Connor Phillips, RHP, McLennan (Texas) JC (+52)

No. 107 Stevie Emanuels, RHP, Washington

No. 127 Dane Acker, RHP, Oklahoma (+86)

 

Edited April 13, 20206 yr by DirtySox

BA has also updated the Cade Cavalli scouting report. He's someone with notable helium, even more so on Law's list. See below if you too wanted to know more about him.

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If you were creating the blueprint for an ideal pitcher’s body, Cavalli might look like the end product. A towering, 6-foot-4, 218-pound righthander who looks like an All-American quarterback, Cavalli on paper has everything you’d want to see in a frontline arm. He can dial his fastball up to 98 mph and the pitch sits in the mid-90s with ease. After that, he has a devastating slider in the 87-90 mph range with impressive lateral movement and serves as an out-pitch to both lefties and righties. Next, he has a curveball and a changeup that are solid-average with growth potential. Cavalli throws everything out of a picturesque arm action and delivery as well. While the stuff, delivery and frame are all easy check marks, there are a few question marks. Perhaps because of how clean Cavalli’s operation is, hitters tend to square up his fastball more than the velocity would suggest. Scouts wonder if he has any deception in his delivery. While the fastball has 70-grade velocity, it plays down at least a grade and perhaps more, and he has a history of erratic control that makes it more difficult to work to his secondary offerings. He improved in the strike-throwing department through four starts this spring (just five walks in 23.2 innings) but he’s never posted a WHIP lower than 1.27 in his career and gives up plenty of hits. Additionally, he has a troubling injury history going back to his high school days. He rarely pitched during his senior year because of lingering back issues and also missed time in 2019 due to a stress reaction in his arm. While Cavalli has first-round pure stuff, big upside and one of the better bodies in the 2020 class, he could fall into the second round because of concerns about how that stuff plays, the quality of his strikes and questions about durability. He was trending up prior to the end of the season and never got a chance to put everything together, but enough scouts have seen him synched up in short stints to dream about his future potential.

 

Kjerstad at 11 please

46 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

BA has also updated the Cade Cavalli scouting report. He's someone with notable helium, even more so on Law's list. See below if you too wanted to know more about him.

 

I would be a bit worried about that. His FB does look straight and in the video the hitter was fouling off a ton of fastballs. If he loses 2 or 3 mph on his Fb it could be very bad.

You can be good with a bad fastball (kluber) but then you have to have at least one plus plus offspeed pitch.

 

That's not something I'm too terribly worried about with this guy.  He's big, strong, athletic and he does it really clean and easy.  They can make little adjustments to help him add some deception or they could give him a 2 seamer or a different grip to make the ball cut.  He checks a lot of boxes for me.  

3 hours ago, DirtySox said:

BA updated draft rankings. Posting the top 15. Also a blurb showing the biggest upward movers.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/2020-mlb-draft-top-prospects/

 

Could you share where they have Howard listed?