The pitchers just can’t keep it in the ballpark. I thought we might catch a break after Moncada’s nifty play but NOOOO!

This series should put to bed any more delusional thoughts of the Sox competing this year or next. Moncada is the only guy on the Sox who would start for Minnesota.

It is time to hunker down and embrace the tank for a few more years. 

8 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

The Twins have a very good young core and a good farm system with two guys ranked in the top 15.

It's a good time to be a Twins fan. Their major league team is kicking ass and their farm is stacked as well. 

Yeah this is quite the emergence for their organization. They’re in great position for the next few years.

28 minutes ago, fathom said:

If anything, he is a possible platoon to play vs LHP. Contact issues have always been an issue with him. Anyone that ever thought the Collins/Seby platoon was going to be the future at catcher was fooling themselves 

And it’s first big league game too

The worst part might be seeing Sox players get rattled. I wish people would stfu about the owner. It's a tired old saw. 

2020 guys, they're right on the cusp

Collins really hasn't done much lately, either. Unless Rutschman somehow miraculously falls to us, McCann is probably the guy to resign and keep into his early 30's. At least he is a very good defensive catcher, who seems to have figured out how to be a smart hitter. He won't keep us his current pace, but he doesn't need to be anymore than a .270 hitter, with a little pop. 

4 minutes ago, Lillian said:

Collins really hasn't done much lately, either. Unless Rutschman somehow miraculously falls to us, McCann is probably the guy to resign and keep into his early 30's. At least he is a very good defensive catcher, who seems to have figured out how to be a smart hitter. He won't keep us his current pace, but he doesn't need to be anymore than a .270 hitter, with a little pop. 

If McCann is a good defensive catcher than sign him by all means.  But his he?  He's always low in framing. Cooper apparently likes him, but lately Cooper's judgment stinks.

The Twins have also gotten a lot of mileage out of Free Agents...the type of Free Agents in the same cost range that the White Sox fish in.  The  Sox veterans free agents have been big negatives.  I guess the Twins use analytics and actually scout their guys.

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Hahn has a lot of work to do!!!!!!

1 run in the last 24 innings or so?

Is there really much of a question about McCann's defence? He seems to be exceptional at blocking balls, and calling a good game. I don't know how his pitch framing grades, but he does also have a pretty good arm.

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Does Eloy finish 2019 as a negative WAR player? 

2 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

Does Eloy finish 2019 as a negative WAR player? 

Yes, just because his defense is going to be rated so poorly. He will hit his homers, more surprised at how the hit tool has looked so far.

Perhaps Zavala can set the major league record for most consecutive strikeouts to start a career 

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yes, just because his defense is going to be rated so poorly. He will hit his homers, more surprised at how the hit tool has looked so far.

He seems to be trying to hit every pitch 450 feet

Zavala golden sombrero- the perfect way to end that series

7 minutes ago, Lillian said:

Is there really much of a question about McCann's defence? I seems to be exceptional at blocking balls, and calling a good game. I don't know how his pitch framing grades, but he does also have a pretty good arm.

Is he?  The starting pitchers, other than Giolito, are getting their brains beat in.  Last in the majors in starters ERA and WHIP.
His framing grades poorly. 
I don't know whether he is or isn't.  But I don't think Cooper knows either.

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4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yes, just because his defense is going to be rated so poorly. He will hit his homers, more surprised at how the hit tool has looked so far.

Looks like Eloy is gonna require at least 1000 at bats in the pros before he becomes the elite bat that everyone said he would be. 

8 minutes ago, Soxfest said:

Hahn has a lot of work to do!!!!!!

God help us!

This was a lost weekend, totally and completely. At least they won two games in Houston. Maybe they can recover over the next 14 games against Kansas City, Cleveland and Washington. None of them juggernauts.

3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

God help us!

This was a lost weekend, totally and completely. At least they won two games in Houston. Maybe they can recover over the next 14 games against Kansas City, Cleveland and Washington. None of them juggernauts.

They'll win 9 or 10 of those and all the dopes around here will be wanting Kimbrel & Keuchel because they believe they can make a WC push

4 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Is he?  The starting pitchers, other than Giolito, are getting their brains beat in.  Last in the majors in starters ERA and WHIP.
His framing grades poorly. 
I don't know whether he is or isn't.  But I don't think Cooper knows either.

Well, if McCann isn't a good defensive catcher, then you can add that position as a hole to be filled, likely in free agency, because neither Collins, or Zevala are good defensive catchers and I don't see either of their bats being good enough to carry them.

16 minutes ago, flavum said:

Zavala golden sombrero- the perfect way to end that series

And an error.

Stone and Benneti have been telling us how good this offense is, but they can't even put the ball in play. And they have been boasting about how well the Sox offense has done in the late innings. Of course, the opposition starter is out, and many times there is a drop off in the bullpen. The White Sox  can't come up with the big hit, and only Anderson can put pressure on the opposition defense with base running speed.  How many times has the offense registered double-digit strikeouts in a game?

12 minutes ago, NWINFan said:

Stone and Benneti have been telling us how good this offense is, but they can't even put the ball in play. And they have been boasting about how well the Sox offense has done in the late innings. Of course, the opposition starter is out, and many times there is a drop off in the bullpen. The White Sox  can't come up with the big hit, and only Anderson can put pressure on the opposition defense with base running speed.  How many times has the offense registered double-digit strikeouts in a game?

Benetti and Stone aren't lying. Stats don't lie. They are hitting well in the later innings. Moncada, Garcia and Tilson are all speedy players as well besides TA.

The team isn't good. Chances are, this rebuild won't succeed how we all want it to. But to b**** about being swept in a road series against the AL's hottest team? Seems outrageous and wasteful

Twins 18-8 on the road and home. Credit due.

Sox would have been better off trading Sale, Eaton, and Quintana, then getting right back to filling in the gaps and hoping. In fact, get to it next offseason.