People getting ready to bash Hahn here, MadBum was pretty clear on wanting to remain in the NL.

This is horrible for the Sox. Angels will almost definitely get Ryu or Keuchel.

Just now, bschmaranz said:

People getting ready to bash Hahn here, MadBum was pretty clear on wanting to remain in the NL.

Yeah he wanted to still be able to bat so I can’t blame him. Looks like it’s down to Keuchel and Ryu as the ones left

2 minutes ago, Orlando said:

17 million or so a year is nothing 

Yeah not bad, would still want him for a shorter time frame

 

I didn't see MadBum leaving the NL, so I'm not surprised with this or disappointed. Sox really need to do something though. They cannot allow Covey to see a major league mound in 2020.

Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Yeah he wanted to still be able to bat so I can’t blame him. Looks like it’s down to Keuchel and Ryu as the ones left

Funny thing is he's been fricken terrible at the dish lately.

2 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Give Ryu the same deal.

Ryu won’t get that much, especially not now.  He’s two years older than Bumgarner with injury concerns.

But if this is Bumgarner’s price, the Sox have no excuses not to land either Ryu or Keuchel. They won’t get paid nearly as much as 5/$85 million.

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4 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

He got 5/85

 

I thought he would get about that for 4 years. Interesting.

I'm beginning to suspect that Hahn has a deal in place with Bloom. Otherwise, it does appear that they aren't getting anything, other than a bottom of the rotation starter. It also wouldn't surprise me if they bring back Nova, who had expressed a strong desire to return. 

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1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said:

Ryu won’t get that much, especially not now.  He’s two years older than Bumgarner with injury concerns.

But if this is Bumgarner’s price, the Sox have no excuses not to land either Ryu or Keuchel. They won’t get paid nearly as much as 5/$85 million.

Blue Jays keep getting linked to Ryu. Of all places he'd end up, I'd be pretty surprised if he left for Toronto.

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

This is horrible for the Sox. Angels will almost definitely get Ryu or Keuchel.

It’s starting to become obvious, if it wasn’t already, that the Sox refuse to negotiate with Boras.

This lowers David Price’s price in my opinion. Probably helps with Kuechel and Ryu’s contract for interested teams. If MadBum gets 5/85 with 15 mil differed I can’t see Price being too expensive to trade for

Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Blue Jays keep getting linked to Ryu. Of all places he'd end up, I'd be pretty surprised if he left for Toronto.

Twins, Angels and Cardinals are also in. I’m betting Ryu to Twins, Keuchel to Angels

3 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

Yeah he wanted to still be able to bat so I can’t blame him. Looks like it’s down to Keuchel and Ryu as the ones left

No pun intended.

People acting like this is a horrible deal are delusional.

Just now, bmags said:

People acting like this is a horrible deal are delusional.

Yep I would have loved this for the Sox

Just now, bmags said:

People acting like this is a horrible deal are delusional.

Indeed.  Wheeler got $33 million more, and it’s no sure thing that he is better than Bumgarner.

The Sox would have had to go over $100 million to even get Bumgarner to consider signing. 

I would be shocked if the Sox land either Ryu or Kuechel. Hahn is going to have to get creative 

This is interesting, but I think he's trying too hard.

 

Could the Sox maybe pull a trade and then try to extend Ray?

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Just now, bachy said:

The Sox would have had to go over $100 million to even get Bumgarner to consider signing. 

This is a ridiculous statement with no backing or evidence.

1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

This is interesting, but I think he's trying too hard.

 

 

Heard Robbie Ray for Miguel Andújar rumors in the past

3 minutes ago, bmags said:

People acting like this is a horrible deal are delusional.

It’s not a horrible deal but he would’ve gotten torched in our ballpark. Give me Ryu or Keuchel instead.

10 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said:

Kind of nuts not to be in on MadBum at 5/$85.

We probably were. Rick offered 5/$100, but he chose to go to Ariz. Probably where his girlfriend or wife is from.

This team is seriously going to sign zero of the 1st/2nd tier pitchers on the FA market and more than likely trade assets for a pitcher. 

S.S.D.D.

Or they could go even cheaper and just choose to run with their current rotation and pray for the best. We seriously might see Dylan Covey in the rotation again. Fuck Jerry.