1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said:

Schwarber isn't coming here to platoon and ride pine. He is going somewhere to be a full time DH or a desperate team's outfielder. 

He’d be smart to wait until NL makes a decision. He would be a great fit for the other NL Central teams.

42 minutes ago, fathom said:

He’d be smart to wait until NL makes a decision. He would be a great fit for the other NL Central teams.

Utterly ridiculous the NL-DH stuff hasn't been sorted out yet.

2 minutes ago, raBBit said:

Utterly ridiculous the NL-DH stuff hasn't been sorted out yet.

Yeah it seems too dumb to be true 

20 minutes ago, raBBit said:

Utterly ridiculous the NL-DH stuff hasn't been sorted out yet.

Agreed. That is effecting many people's lives as workers in the league. Honestly, pathetic. 

3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

If they can find a spot for all three of Vaughn, Eloy and Abreu, then sure they can keep him. My opinion is that Vaughn is blocked until Abreu is no longer starting. I'm not sure I want a butcher in LF and a well below average defender at 1B. You can deal with one of those, but not both. 

Abreu was a well below defender at 1B last year?

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Abreu was a well below defender at 1B last year?

I thought he had his 1st year where he was above average? 

 

3 hours ago, fathom said:

People really need to listen to Harold and Stoney more 

Harold said they were going to spend with La Russa in tow.  What has Stone said?

2 hours ago, fathom said:

Yes but that Jerry didn’t want to spend big on free agency 

How does that make sense though?  He’s willing to trade for big salaries but not sign them?  Why?

2 hours ago, fathom said:

Good god man, is that what every thread will be like?

Thank you...it’s starting to get out of control

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Harold said they were going to spend with La Russa in tow.  What has Stone said?

Stoney said no to Bauer and Springer. Also has been adamant about a lefty hitter.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

How does that make sense though?  He’s willing to trade for big salaries but not sign them?  Why?

To me, that would mean that guys like Darvish, Wheeler and Harper are out of the question as well. 

I don't think he's willing to top Grandal's deal from last year. 

Edited December 2, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman

2 hours ago, fathom said:

Trade for Lynn, sign Q.  Seems pretty obvious this is the type of framework they have in mind.

What are you anticipating they give up for Lynn?

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

What are you anticipating they give up for Lynn?

If I had to guess based off no info, something like Stiever, Dahlquist and Adolfo 

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

What are you anticipating they give up for Lynn?

My opinion? If they actually land him it's going to be both Lynn and Gallo. And it's going to cost Cease+, and we're all going to puke when Lynn is not re-signed. 

2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

Unless they feel like they can get away with keeping him in the minors and saving him for next year. 

If they could spend $5M and get an extra year of service from Vaughn, why wouldn't they? 

Because that’s $5M less than can spend elsewhere on the roster?

3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

My opinion? If they actually land him it's going to be both Lynn and Gallo. And it's going to cost Cease+, and we're all going to puke when Lynn is not re-signed. 

That would be dumb. Took so long to accumulate assets only to flippantly trade them with a significant long term WAR loss

1 minute ago, NCsoxfan said:

That would be dumb. Took so long to accumulate assets only to flippantly trade them with a significant long term WAR loss

It's the White Sox Modus Operandi. Has been for 20 years. 

Leopards don't change their spots. 

Edited December 2, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman

30 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I thought he had his 1st year where he was above average? 

He did but he also got into tremendous shape and worked on improving his defense.

15 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

To me, that would mean that guys like Darvish, Wheeler and Harper are out of the question as well. 

I don't think he's willing to top Grandal's deal from last year. 

You mean just this offseason, because they are clearly willing to top Grandal’s deal in a general sense.

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

You mean just this offseason, because they are clearly willing to top Grandal’s deal in a general sense.

Yeah, I mean until there's fans in the stands Grandal territory is top dollar in years and money for Jerry. I don't think he's willing to go any longer than 4 years and any higher than 18-19M AAV on a single contract until things get back to normal revenue wise. 

The MLB owners are going to use the pandemic to lay the hammer down on the MLBPA and I do not expect a 2022 season at this point. The MLB owners and MLBPA are probably not anywhere close to the same planet.  

Each side thinks the other is on Uranus. 

Edited December 3, 20205 yr by Jack Parkman

29 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

My opinion? If they actually land him it's going to be both Lynn and Gallo. And it's going to cost Cease+, and we're all going to puke when Lynn is not re-signed. 

I really don’t see them trading for Gallo.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Abreu was a well below defender at 1B last year?

Abreu was very good defensively last year.  Better than all but the very best IMO.

Dahl is a possible option if the Sox truly aren't looking to spend significant $ on Springer.

I actually have always liked Dahl.