Just now, hankchifan said:

He took a horizontal route to the ball first instead of going back right away.

That ball had a low catch probability to begin with. Gordon hit it pretty hard and it didn't hang up that long. A good defender gets to it, but Goodwin isn't that. 

3 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

He took a horizontal route to the ball first instead of going back right away.

SOrry that ball was in the gap and was a line shot . It wasn't even in the air long enough to get to it . I have no idea what you are looking at . The twins announcers said he had no shot on it and that's how it looked to me.

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-twins/2021/07/05/633487#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=633487

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

1 minute ago, JTB said:

Can’t do it.  I’ve got Burger and Sheets platooning back there. 

They could put Story at second, but that won’t happen, either.

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

That ball had a low catch probability to begin with. Gordon hit it pretty hard and it didn't hang up that long. A good defender gets to it, but Goodwin isn't that. 

Maybe, a healthy Hamilton/Buxton/Robert/Engel get to it.  Maybe.

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by caulfield12

Goodwin should be to CF what Mendick is to SS. I don’t fault him for being subpar out there. He’s been a plus for this team. 

Its too early to panic. A lot of you guys are giving up and we’re 6 games up in first place! Lol

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by maloney.adam

2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

That ball had a low catch probability to begin with. Gordon hit it pretty hard and it didn't hang up that long. A good defender gets to it, but Goodwin isn't that. 

A good fielder positioned 5 feet closer than where Goodwin started might get to it. That ball was smoked.

34 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Goodwin was positioned weirdly. They were playing Gordon like an opposite field hitter. He very well might be, but if he was playing straight up he might have a shot at that ball. Either way, you're right. Goodwin is a god awful defensive outfielder. Engel coming back will be a godsend. 

Particularly if Cease was going to throw a breaking ball that Gordon could sort of pull.

Alcides Escobar 4/9 with a 1.000 ops for the Nationals.

Crazy season.  Everyone gets a shot.

6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

A good fielder positioned 5 feet closer than where Goodwin started might get to it. That ball was smoked.

Maybe better to analyze the pitch to Gordon instead. It was a breaking pitch in the middle of the zone. ESPN announcer said there was no need to throw a strike to Gordon who is a free swinger. Also maybe Cease was already gassed with 107 pitches.

2 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Particularly if Cease was going to throw a breaking ball that Gordon could sort of pull.

From the time the ball left the bat to when hit it the ground was approx. 3 seconds. Look at the replay and count it yourself. It was laser beam. You know sometimes the best CFers have balls go to the wall. Goodwin isn't the best CF by far but come on now.

1 minute ago, hankchifan said:

Maybe better to analyze the pitch to Gordon instead. It was a breaking pitch in the middle of the zone. ESPN announcer said there was no need to throw a strike to Gordon who is a free swinger. Also maybe Cease was already gassed with 107 pitches.

OK you backed off it was Goodwins fault at least so there's that. 5 runs per game from the offense on the road isnt bad . It's just the pitching sucked.

58 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I mean the good news is that Houston swept Cleveland. 

If the White Sox can go through the tough stretch after the AS break at .500, it will be tough for Cleveland to make up that ground.

Sox are lucky that we are in the worst division in baseball.

5 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Maybe better to analyze the pitch to Gordon instead. It was a breaking pitch in the middle of the zone. ESPN announcer said there was no need to throw a strike to Gordon who is a free swinger. Also maybe Cease was already gassed with 107 pitches.

I doubt he wanted to throw it there. Fry definitely should have pitched to Gordon. Even if it didn't work out, it seems like the right move just based on the splits and Cease's pitch count and effectiveness. 

6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

From the time the ball left the bat to when hit it the ground was approx. 3 seconds. Look at the replay and count it yourself. It was laser beam. You know sometimes the best CFers have balls go to the wall. Goodwin isn't the best CF by far but come on now.

I was responding to a post that said Goodwin was positioned towards Gordon going the other way.

@Balta1701, @Dick Allen, @hi8is

3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

@Balta1701, @Dick Allen, @hi8is

Steve Stone won’t be expecting this…

6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

@Balta1701, @Dick Allen, @hi8is

Even if the ball was slower than he thought, there were no outs and you should err on the side of caution.  Yoan screwed up

19 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I doubt he wanted to throw it there. Fry definitely should have pitched to Gordon. Even if it didn't work out, it seems like the right move just based on the splits and Cease's pitch count and effectiveness. 

Another TLR screw up.

44 minutes ago, chw42 said:

That's assuming there's even a game. It's supposed to rain all day tomorrow. We really need Carlos to be a stopper for us. Our starters have been god awful the past 3 days. 

Thanks for the info.

 

Jesus we've had so many rainouts and doubleheaders this year

47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We can’t count on the Indians going 1-9 every ten games…they better have Jimenez and Robert back for that really tough stretch in August.

Right now, the Tigers are playing like the best team in the division.  Hinch turned out to be a good choice for another rebuilding team with a boatload of young talent.

 

47 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We can’t count on the Indians going 1-9 every ten games…they better have Jimenez and Robert back for that really tough stretch in August.

Right now, the Tigers are playing like the best team in the division.  Hinch turned out to be a good choice for another rebuilding team with a boatload of young talent.

 

48 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

We can’t count on the Indians going 1-9 every ten games…they better have Jimenez and Robert back for that really tough stretch in August.

Right now, the Tigers are playing like the best team in the division.  Hinch turned out to be a good choice for another rebuilding team with a boatload of young talent.

Too bad we didn’t hire Hinch instead of TLR, even with all the baggage.

13 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Even if the ball was slower than he thought, there were no outs and you should err on the side of caution.  Yoan screwed up

Got caught up in the rally’s momentum…possibly forgot the number of outs.

20 minutes ago, hankchifan said:

Even if the ball was slower than he thought, there were no outs and you should err on the side of caution.  Yoan screwed up

I can agree with this. Have to think what was the 3rd base coach telling him? Yoan should know better anyway but a friendly reminder about ground balls to the pitcher or 3rd base or anything directly at a fielder with the infield in drawn in you don't go.

Or if its to the 3rd basemen you kind of follow him down the line maybe or get a little bit in front of him so he catches you out of the corner of his eye  and maybe then take off after he throws it or distract him a bit. The SS would have to cover 3rd so you could get back to 3rd if you had to.

Edited July 6, 20214 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

2 hours ago, SoxBlanco said:

I’m aware of how the contact play works as opposed to what you’re supposed to do when the contact play is not on. It was most likely the contact play, but there’s a chance Yoan just decided to run. 

Ozzie and Frank were convinced it was a Moncada brain fart

1 hour ago, kgrittenburg said:

Ozzie and Frank were convinced it was a Moncada brain fart

Len and DJ said the same during the game