March 23, 20232 yr On 3/20/2023 at 3:45 PM, Illinibat said: Moncada and the Sox will milk this the entire season as the reason he is hitting .200 I mean….he is pre and post-excusing “Injuries definitely had an effect on my performance the last couple of years, but I can’t blame it all on the injuries. Especially this year, the past is the past. If I stay healthy, I’m going to be able to perform.”
March 23, 20232 yr On 3/20/2023 at 1:35 AM, VAfan said: Watched the video over and over again after seeing it live. I don't see how he could have hurt anything. Moncada picked the wrong sport, he should be a soccer player with that act.
March 24, 20232 yr On 3/20/2023 at 8:24 PM, Snopek said: I imagine there’s resentment that he didn’t pan out as the face of the franchise superstar that the hype of being the #1 overall prospect tends to generate, so some people are just waiting for reasons to criticize him. Which is silly, of course. My only resentment is that he's blocking Burger who is actually a good and useful player. Edited March 24, 20232 yr by Illinibat
March 24, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Illinibat said: My only resentment is that he's blocking Burger who is actually a good and useful player. Agree to disagree that Moncada is blocking a DH vs LHP.
March 24, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, Illinibat said: My only resentment is that he's blocking Burger who is actually a good and useful player. According to what, exactly? Even if you want to completely dismiss the fact that Moncada is an elite defensive 3B and Jake Burger might not even be the best defensive 3B on a competitive mens softball team, I am really curious to hear how you come to this conclusion.
March 24, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: According to what, exactly? Even if you want to completely dismiss the fact that Moncada is an elite defensive 3B and Jake Burger might not even be the best defensive 3B on a competitive mens softball team, I am really curious to hear how you come to this conclusion. Because I think Burger is going to be an .800+ OPS player if he ever gets the at bats somewhere and Moncada is a bust.
March 24, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: According to what, exactly? Even if you want to completely dismiss the fact that Moncada is an elite defensive 3B and Jake Burger might not even be the best defensive 3B on a competitive mens softball team, I am really curious to hear how you come to this conclusion. Don't waste your keystrokes. Dude LOVES Burger and thinks Moncada is one of the worst players around, facts or evidence be damned.
March 24, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: According to what, exactly? Even if you want to completely dismiss the fact that Moncada is an elite defensive 3B and Jake Burger might not even be the best defensive 3B on a competitive mens softball team, I am really curious to hear how you come to this conclusion. I mean, you can play a random light hitting shortstop at third. Moncada isn’t special in his play. Power at a power position is important. He just doesn’t belong at third base with his lack of power.
March 24, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: I mean, you can play a random light hitting shortstop at third. Moncada isn’t special in his play. Power at a power position is important. He just doesn’t belong at third base with his lack of power. Huh? Moncada is an elite 3B. He’s definitely a very good defensive 3B. Yoan had a terrible 2022 offensively, but let’s see how 23 goes before we deem that he doesn’t belong at 3B. Glad these small contingent of anti-Moncada Soxtalk isn’t responsible for roster decisions. Regardless, the answer at 3B is not Burger for anything more than a short term fill in. He’s an absolute butcher over there. Edited March 24, 20232 yr by ChiSox59
March 24, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Huh? Moncada is an elite 3B. He’s definitely a very good defensive 3B. Yoan had a terrible 2022 offensively, but let’s see how 23 goes before we deem that he doesn’t belong at 3B. Glad these small contingent of anti-Moncada Soxtalk isn’t responsible for roster decisions. Regardless, the answer at 3B is not Burger for anything more than a short term fill in. He’s an absolute butcher over there. i've never been anti-Moncada per say. Just that he shouldn't be playing third.
March 24, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: i've never been anti-Moncada per say. Just that he shouldn't be playing third. But the far worse defender in Burger should? Make it make sense!!
March 24, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: i've never been anti-Moncada per say. Just that he shouldn't be playing third. As opposed to returning to 2B, where he was a disaster defensively? He's a gold glove caliber 3B even if his hitting doesn't rebound to 2019 levels. No one else on the roster supplants him.
March 24, 20232 yr Opening Day needs to get here ASAP. Some of these hot takes are just too looney tunes.
March 24, 20232 yr Just now, Tnetennba said: As opposed to returning to 2B, where he was a disaster defensively? He's a gold glove caliber 3B even if his hitting doesn't rebound to 2019 levels. No one else on the roster supplants him. You telling me Andrus couldn't play third as well as Moncada can? Honestly I don't know where Moncada should be playing. And this past situation at second base, nothing says Moncada simply improved in the field in general since that small sample size snapshot in his career, and could play second base passably, where his occasional power would make him even more valuable. Sacrificing power at the altar of defense for third basemen is not a widespread model for sure. It would be very easy to replicate. Team don't do that for a reason. Power is that reason
March 24, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Opening Day needs to get here ASAP. Some of these hot takes are just too looney tunes. Moncada's salary balanced against his actual production is a reason you couldn't trade him for anything. There, gave ya another. April 3 my man.
March 24, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Chick Mercedes said: Moncada's salary balanced against his actual production is a reason you couldn't trade him for anything. There, gave ya another. April 3 my man. Moncada’s salary is completely irrelevant in the topic of whether or not he should be playing 3B over Jake fuckin Burger.
March 24, 20232 yr My favorite suggestion so far is moving our (by far) best defensive third baseman away from third base.
March 24, 20232 yr Just now, ChiSox59 said: Moncada’s salary is completely irrelevant in the topic of whether or not he should be playing 3B over Jake fuckin Burger. I don't disagree on that point. Only that his valure as a player on this team would be based on his bat, not third base defense. And for some reason, third base defense is regarded as sacrsanct in the Moncada discussion. Way overrated.
March 24, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: I don't disagree on that point. Only that his valure as a player on this team would be based on his bat, not third base defense. And for some reason, third base defense is regarded as sacrsanct in the Moncada discussion. Way overrated. We all want to see more from Yoan’s bat, but perhaps you’re taking for granted what it’s like to have a reliable, great defender at 3B. I don’t think I understand why you would downplay how valuable that is.
March 24, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: Moncada's salary balanced against his actual production is a reason you couldn't trade him for anything. There, gave ya another. April 3 my man. yeah, uh, Monada's salary is as irrelevant as your hot takes. I'm sorry, I just can't take you seriously.
March 24, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: yeah, uh, Monada's salary is as irrelevant as your hot takes. I'm sorry, I just can't take you seriously. I'll live . Have a great weekend.
March 24, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: You telling me Andrus couldn't play third as well as Moncada can? Honestly I don't know where Moncada should be playing. And this past situation at second base, nothing says Moncada simply improved in the field in general since that small sample size snapshot in his career, and could play second base passably, where his occasional power would make him even more valuable. Sacrificing power at the altar of defense for third basemen is not a widespread model for sure. It would be very easy to replicate. Team don't do that for a reason. Power is that reason 3B would be the correct answer.
March 25, 20232 yr Not gonna lie - I was THIIIIS close to starting a “how has Yoan wronged YOU? (Wrong answers only)” thread….
March 25, 20232 yr 18 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said: Can we combine Moncada and Burger into one player? Burcada anyone? Monger? "Monburger" could be a nice French-flair burger they could serve alongside that champaign hot dog or whatever the hell it is.
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