Fire Chris Getz

[WestEddy]

9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

So Dan Hayes heard something, reported it, then "unheard it," basically...of course, he COULDN'T possibly want to protect his relationship with the Twins for causing a player to be upset (with his organization) since he's suddenly the subject of quite public trade rumors.

Of course, the reality is ANY player would want to be desired or desirable to other teams...if nobody wanted to trade for you, that's probably a BAD thing, right?

Am I supposed to respond to your fantasy that Keaschul was crying actual tears because of a trade rumor? 

[caulfield12]

9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I don't see an article. Oh, I get it. It's a pretend article. 

You need to get a job in the press office with Leavitt.

[WestEddy]

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Oh, that’s right.  WestEddy was trolling caufield about the Padres’ bad record earlier in the season.

Oops.  My how things change, except for Getz’s awful White Sox.

No, actually, in spring training. You can't seem to get anything right. And nothing changed for the Sox with me. I predicted 54 wins, and still feel that. It's a rebuild, and I can accept that. I'm sorry that humiliates you. 

[WhiteSox2023]

7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

No, actually, in spring training. You can't seem to get anything right. And nothing changed for the Sox with me. I predicted 54 wins, and still feel that. It's a rebuild, and I can accept that. I'm sorry that humiliates you. 

You do realize that you are just ensuring that this epic thread will make history one day?

Page 70 now!  🤣

[WestEddy]

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I revised my previous post.  Here it is.

https://www.soxon35th.com/report-white-sox-passed-on-rivals-top-prospect-for-erick-fedde/

"I think...if they wanted to do something like that, it would have been surrounding Luke Keaschul ... talks didn't advance at all." - Dan Hayes (starting at the 26 second mark)

Yeah, I can see how you got that wrong. I mean, he totally said that HE THOUGHT THAT IF THEY WERE TO PURSUE A TRADE...

Maybe you just didn't click your heels the right number of times when you wished it was true. 

[WhiteSox2023]

14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

"I think...if they wanted to do something like that, it would have been surrounding Luke Keaschul ... talks didn't advance at all." - Dan Hayes (starting at the 26 second mark)

Yeah, I can see how you got that wrong. I mean, he totally said that HE THOUGHT THAT IF THEY WERE TO PURSUE A TRADE...

Maybe you just didn't click your heels the right number of times when you wished it was true. 

Well, I sure as hell didn’t click my heels and wish for a return of Miguel Vargas!

That was your boy Getz.

Edited May 13 by WhiteSox2023

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The facts are in the standings the past two seasons.  No one needs bravado or meatball soup to see the truth.

It's a rebuild after the old rebuild died and Reinsdorf estate planning for his death.

I've given you the benefit of the doubt that you actually know this. But I guess I'm wrong . You actually think Getz matters and think things could magically change to IDK what if only JR fired Getz and was replaced by IDK who .  You always leave that part out. Oh wait you said a monkey. Your X must be so popular .

[chitownsportsfan]

This is what the youth call "crashing out". Try and avoid it.

[WestEddy]

9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Well, I sure as hell didn’t click my heels and wish for a return of Miguel Vargas!

That was your boy Getz.

And he's on pace for 2 bWAR (average major leaguer), just on his defense, not counting the offensive changes he's made which seem to have given him a bit of a bump. Dude seems coachable and durable. And then, there's Jeral Perez who's a shortstop hitting HRs like Elko. What's not to like?

But you seem to be deflecting from Hayes obviously saying he thought that IF the Twins were to do a deal with the White Sox, it might be for Keaschul. But nothing got close. He never reported that Keaschul was offered for Fedde. 

I understand if you're too embarrassed to admit to either getting it wrong, or wish-casting. 

[caulfield12]

16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Well, I sure as hell didn’t click my heels and wish for a return of Miguel Vargas!

That was your boy Getz.

Be careful, Vargas is now one of the 3-5 most "valuable" players to the White Sox by fWAR.

Headed for let's say a 1-1.5 fWAR, which is a dramatic improvement from 2024, I suppose.

[chitownsportsfan]

16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It's a rebuild after the old rebuild died and Reinsdorf estate planning for his death.

I've given you the benefit of the doubt that you actually know this. But I guess I'm wrong . You actually think Getz matters and think things could magically change to IDK what if only JR fired Getz and was replaced by IDK who .  You always leave that part out. Oh wait you said a monkey. Your X must be so popular .

I mean there are examples of extremely cheap franchises outperforming the White Sox recently, a couple in our own division. I agree JR is a massive problem, probably the worst owner in baseball, but on his own merits Getz has done pretty poorly so far. Getz is lucky that the Rockies have taken some heat off imo. He's out of the national headlines.

[Quin]

36 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I mean there are examples of extremely cheap franchises outperforming the White Sox recently, a couple in our own division. I agree JR is a massive problem, probably the worst owner in baseball, but on his own merits Getz has done pretty poorly so far. Getz is lucky that the Rockies have taken some heat off imo. He's out of the national headlines.

That being said, it would be objectively funny if both teams broke last season's record.

[caulfield12]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Am I supposed to respond to your fantasy that Keaschul was crying actual tears because of a trade rumor? 

Keaschall

 

The last player the White Sox made cry over a trade was Fernando Tatis, Jr.

 

“I was so happy,’’ said Tatis, now 6-foot-3, 210 pounds. “I had so many friends. I couldn’t wait to play for the White Sox."

He instead found himself sobbing, in utter disbelief. The White Sox called him on June 4, 2016, and told him he was traded. He was going to San Diego. The White Sox, refusing to give up any of their top prospects in the organization, traded an unknown commodity for veteran pitcher James Shields, hoping to make a playoff run.

“I couldn’t believe it,’’ Tatis tells USA TODAY Sports. “I was heartbroken. I was so surprised. I’m like, 'What’s going on here? How is this happening?"

 

 

Tatis, with his dyed-blond dreads, breaks into a huge grin, spreads out his palms, and laughs.

It’s not a vicious laugh. Or malicious. More of a snicker, mixed in with a cackle, and just a tinge of reprisal.

Really, the more he thinks of it, the White Sox shouldn’t solely blamed. If they were willing to move him in a salary dump for Shields, it means any other team in baseball could have acquire him for little in return.

“It doesn’t matter now, does it?’’ Tatis says. “I’m past that. It’s a business. I understand how it works."

“Things happen for a reason.This is where I’m supposed to be.’’

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/story/news/2019/04/16/padres-phenom-fernando-tatis-jr-has-baseball-awestruck-havent-seen-a-talent-like-tha/44307955/

 

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/story/news/2019/04/16/padres-phenom-fernando-tatis-jr-has-baseball-awestruck-havent-seen-a-talent-like-tha/44307955/

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I mean there are examples of extremely cheap franchises outperforming the White Sox recently, a couple in our own division. I agree JR is a massive problem, probably the worst owner in baseball, but on his own merits Getz has done pretty poorly so far. Getz is lucky that the Rockies have taken some heat off imo. He's out of the national headlines.

I'm not enamored with Getz. I think he was a hire of convenience and a Fall guy.  The stunt double to take the fall because a real GM wouldn't take the role because you can't look good as a GM under the current situation.

He had very little to trade off compared to the 1st rebuild. Crochet appeared out of nowhere. That happened on Getz' watch with help from the pitching guru he hired and Katz. That has brought the most talent into the organization.  Most of the time many of the complaints are about the process and not even necessarily the results . Most moves have been inconsequential and without much money involved. Pretty much the bare minimum it takes to stock AAA and the Sox with a very low budget for doing so. I didn't like the Fedde trade I thought it a player short like most did. It's looking little better this year.

In 2 off seasons. Fedde had been the Sox biggest FA signing 2 years $15M . Compare it to signings the Sox made during the 1st rebuild. They actually put too good a product on the field that the draft picks during that rebuild weren't ever at the top like when the Astros were tanking. The Astros really knew how to suck .

Now Getz is working under anti tanking rules the league instituted which hurts the Sox more than any other team because they operate like a small market team without the benefits that small market teams get. That's on JR not his puppet. Add it all up and we're likely making the same complaints because JR would've hired a different puppet working with the same restrictions in the transition years before hopefully the Ishbia's are the new owners. Or Jerry outlives the Ishbia's patience and they pull out.

 

 

[chitownsportsfan]

23 minutes ago, Quin said:

That being said, it would be objectively funny if both teams broke last season's record.

If that happens the rockies and sox should both be made to play in the AAAA parks around the league as punishment. The As can take Rate Field.

Edited May 13 by chitownsportsfan

[caulfield12]

12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I'm not enamored with Getz. I think he was a hire of convenience and a Fall guy.  The stunt double to take the fall because a real GM wouldn't take the role because you can't look good as a GM under the current situation.

He had very little to trade off compared to the 1st rebuild. Crochet appeared out of nowhere. That happened on Getz' watch with help from the pitching guru he hired and Katz. That has brought the most talent into the organization.  Most of the time many of the complaints are about the process and not even necessarily the results . Most moves have been inconsequential and without much money involved. Pretty much the bare minimum it takes to stock AAA and the Sox with a very low budget for doing so. I didn't like the Fedde trade I thought it a player short like most did. It's looking little better this year.

In 2 off seasons. Fedde had been the Sox biggest FA signing 2 years $15M . Compare it to signings the Sox made during the 1st rebuild. They actually put too good a product on the field that the draft picks during that rebuild weren't ever at the top like when the Astros were tanking. The Astros really knew how to suck .

Now Getz is working under anti tanking rules the league instituted which hurts the Sox more than any other team because they operate like a small market team without the benefits that small market teams get. That's on JR not his puppet. Add it all up and we're likely making the same complaints because JR would've hired a different puppet working with the same restrictions in the transition years before hopefully the Ishbia's are the new owners. Or Jerry outlives the Ishbia's patience and they pull out.

 

 

Because they already had Sale, Q, then Rodon, Anderson, Avi Garcia/Eaton, Jose Abreu...some from the previous teardown after 2012/13, so they never really bottomed out "successfully enough" and got those 3-4 consecutive high draft picks like the Royals and Astros did.

 

If it comes out at some point in the future that JR dilly-dallied so much that the Ishbias gave up and cashed out...well, he's going to be about as popular in Chicago as the Pohlad's in Minnesota are currently.   But divide that level of popularity again by a factor of 2-3X.   We're talking the current level of Congressional approval, but lower than that.

(It would be ONE thing if the Bulls weren't also stuck in purgatory, but TWO FRANCHISES in the same big market, c'mon!!!?

 

Edited May 13 by caulfield12

[WhiteSox2023]

3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It's a rebuild after the old rebuild died and Reinsdorf estate planning for his death.

I've given you the benefit of the doubt that you actually know this. But I guess I'm wrong . You actually think Getz matters and think things could magically change to IDK what if only JR fired Getz and was replaced by IDK who .  You always leave that part out. Oh wait you said a monkey. Your X must be so popular .

I don’t use Twitter but I’m not sure if I could match your hot play-by-play action, Ron Willie…

https://x.com/Ronwillie

That stuff was even better than Schriffen’s material!  You should have applied for the gig when there was still an opening.  What a missed opportunity.

Here’s my favorite PBP tweet of yours — this one could be dated this season and no one would know the difference.  🤣

Twelve years later and nothing has changed.  Meanwhile, here you are — still defending yet another rebuild after living through years of them.

Edited May 13 by WhiteSox2023

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

11 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Because they already had Sale, Q, then Rodon, Anderson, Avi Garcia/Eaton, Jose Abreu...some from the previous teardown after 2012/13, so they never really bottomed out "successfully enough" and got those 3-4 consecutive high draft picks like the Royals and Astros did.

 

If it comes out at some point in the future that JR dilly-dallied so much that the Ishbias gave up and cashed out...well, he's going to be about as popular in Chicago as the Pohlad's in Minnesota are currently.   But divide that level of popularity again by a factor of 2-3X.   We're talking the current level of Congressional approval, but lower than that.

(It would be ONE thing if the Bulls weren't also stuck in purgatory, but TWO FRANCHISES in the same big market, c'mon!!!?

 

I wouldn't call not dying "dilly dallying" . The guy loves to play with money. And he's pretty good at it. Not a good owner but he sure has decent luck.  He forgot what it's like to be a fan. He just has higher priorities that don't coincide with rewarding the fans. It's more like using them as a means to an end.

Edited May 13 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

9 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I don’t use Twitter but I’m not sure if I could match your hot play-by-play action, Ron Willie…

https://x.com/Ronwillie

That stuff was even better than Schriffen’s material!  You should have applied for the gig when there was still an opening.  What a missed opportunity.

Here’s my favorite PBP tweet of yours — this one could be dated this season and no one would know the difference.  🤣

Twelve years later and nothing has changed.  Meanwhile, here you are — still defending yet another rebuild after living through years of them.

I like my home town team . So does everyone here.  I want them to be good but at least I'm not blind to whats really happening here instead of blaming a puppet . I can still enjoy my team take smalls amounts of joy at individual moments in games. It does not make me miserable enough to try and hunt down your  social media posts.

Was that some kind of gotcha moment for you ?

[WestEddy]

14 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I like my home town team . So does everyone here.  I want them to be good but at least I'm not blind to whats really happening here instead of blaming a puppet . I can still enjoy my team take smalls amounts of joy at individual moments in games. It does not make me miserable enough to try and hunt down your  social media posts.

Was that some kind of gotcha moment for you ?

Yeah, "BWaaaahahaha, you posted on Twitter things about the White Sox" doesn't seem to be quite the sick burn as intended. You avoided posting nudes, or creeping on female journalists, so wins all around. LOL. That seemed kind of doxxy, but the real villains here are those who won't join in and mope over Chris Getz being employed. 

[WhiteSox2023]

56 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I like my home town team . So does everyone here.  I want them to be good but at least I'm not blind to whats really happening here instead of blaming a puppet . I can still enjoy my team take smalls amounts of joy at individual moments in games. It does not make me miserable enough to try and hunt down your  social media posts.

Was that some kind of gotcha moment for you ?

I already told you I didn't have Twitter after you made a joke about me having one.  I also didn’t hunt down anything.  It’s in your profile.

[WhiteSox2023]

46 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Yeah, "BWaaaahahaha, you posted on Twitter things about the White Sox" doesn't seem to be quite the sick burn as intended. You avoided posting nudes, or creeping on female journalists, so wins all around. LOL. That seemed kind of doxxy, but the real villains here are those who won't join in and mope over Chris Getz being employed. 

Yeah, doxxy.  He put it in his own ST profile.  🤣

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I already told you I didn't have Twitter after you made a joke about me having one.  I also didn’t hunt down anything.  It’s in your profile.

I know where you got it from. In almost 25 years on Soxtalk no one ever looked it up . I rarely used it. Didn't care enough to delete it.

[Kyyle23]

21 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I know where you got it from. In almost 25 years on Soxtalk no one ever looked it up . I rarely used it. Didn't care enough to delete it.

Completely separate from this conversation, I couldn’t leave mine, even inactive, in that cesspool.  I just didn’t want people to see anything I posted left up, lol

[Quin]

16 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I don’t use Twitter but I’m not sure if I could match your hot play-by-play action, Ron Willie…

https://x.com/Ronwillie

That stuff was even better than Schriffen’s material!  You should have applied for the gig when there was still an opening.  What a missed opportunity.

Here’s my favorite PBP tweet of yours — this one could be dated this season and no one would know the difference.  🤣

Twelve years later and nothing has changed.  Meanwhile, here you are — still defending yet another rebuild after living through years of them.

Bro why did you pull a 12 year old tweet from when Twitter was more innocent and people tweeted things like this.

Once upon a time I posted on here that there was no way the Tatis trade would be that bad because how often do lotto tickets like that hit? Also James Shields would mentor Gio. Absolute crackpot s%*#, but it doesn't really have much bearing on my current view of the Sox; back then I was an eternal optimist, now I'm a lot more bitter outside of Pope Leo memes.