Crochet posted a 2.59 ERA in his first season with the Red Sox, and his numbers were even more impressive against a slugging Yankees lineup:

Starts	W-L	IP	ERA	K	BB
5	4-0	35.0	2.57	50	4

"While Crochet's 2.57 ERA is nearly identical, he posted an otherworldly 50:4 strikeout-to-walk ratio and won each decision. Crochet notched double-digit strikeouts in three of his five starts against the Yankees, including Tuesday's Game 1 win, and half of the earned runs he allowed against New York were limited to his first meeting with Aaron Judge and co. in June."

yahoo sports

 

Only three other pitchers in baseball history with 50 k's and 5 or less walks against a single team in one season in baseball history.

Gerrit Cole 2019

Ferguson Jenkins 1971

Christy Matthewson 1917 or 1927

8 hours ago, nrockway said:

I mean the guy just torched the Yankees and threw 120 pitches and the Sox were apparently stupid for even trying him as a starter. Amusingly, it's a similar cast of voices in the 10 concurrent threads whining about the Sox. I was looking at old threads about Crochet in light of his awesome postseason start and the comments in them were genuinely baffling...although not necessarily surprising. People just like to whine.

I would categorize bumping a thread from a year and a half ago to rub it in people's faces as whining, especially coming from someone who gets upset when disagreed with.... some might even call it trolling.

9 hours ago, nrockway said:

I mean the guy just torched the Yankees and threw 120 pitches and the Sox were apparently stupid for even trying him as a starter. Amusingly, it's a similar cast of voices in the 10 concurrent threads whining about the Sox. I was looking at old threads about Crochet in light of his awesome postseason start and the comments in them were genuinely baffling...although not necessarily surprising. People just like to whine.

Some of us have been talking about the possibility of greatness since day one, others are bumping threads dunking on people even though they've proclaimed the Crochet trade a win for the Sox.

Only a select few of us have been consistent since day 1. Crochet is a unicorn. You dont trade unicorn given their scarcity. Teel and Meidroth cant replace a guy who has the skillset to piggy back a team to a title. If montgomery isnt a ++ big league player, the Sox and Getz lose another trade badly.

What im trying to understand is why are you and westeddy pounding your chest on a players performance that you both sing Getz praises for trading lol?

Edited October 1, 2025Oct 1 by Look at Ray Ray Run

9 hours ago, nrockway said:

I mean the guy just torched the Yankees and threw 120 pitches and the Sox were apparently stupid for even trying him as a starter. Amusingly, it's a similar cast of voices in the 10 concurrent threads whining about the Sox. I was looking at old threads about Crochet in light of his awesome postseason start and the comments in them were genuinely baffling...although not necessarily surprising. People just like to whine.

I think this is a pretty bad characterization of the reaction of this board.  People were rightfully worried about an increased workload and his ability to stay strong, and some wanted him to build his arm in Charlotte.  Outside of Balta losing his mind about Grifols use and possible overuse, there was a lot of people in this thread that were excited about it because they knew the Sox had nothing going on and were interested in his development 

this is a very misguided football-spike thread bump 

On 3/18/2024 at 5:02 PM, WBWSF said:

Crochet is going to help the team get into the 2024 Playoff  race.

Damn. We were so close

10 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Damn. We were so close

If they only won 50 more games 

10 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Some of us have been talking about the possibility of greatness since day one, others are bumping threads dunking on people even though they've proclaimed the Crochet trade a win for the Sox.

Only a select few of us have been consistent since day 1. Crochet is a unicorn. You dont trade unicorn given their scarcity. Teel and Meidroth cant replace a guy who has the skillset to piggy back a team to a title. If montgomery isnt a ++ big league player, the Sox and Getz lose another trade badly.

What im trying to understand is why are you and westeddy pounding your chest on a players performance that you both sing Getz praises for trading lol?

There's a constant tone of negativity on this board and it's typically misguided/not rooted in anything factual. I don't understand the urge of being a dick on the internet especially to fellow baseball/White Sox fans. No one's pounding their chest, I just used the  SoxTalk search feature to look at opinions of Crochet after he made a terrific postseason start. And found many of the remarks quite amusing and not surprising. The bullies are typically as wrong as they are uninsightful. I don't take it as seriously as you seem to.

I'll bump the Montgomery thread eventually. Maybe one of the Schultz threads in a few years. Also, notably, people keep re-bumping this thread to be like "why are you bumping this thread?" lol. Y'all could just ignore it. Or lock it. Or continue to talk about the same fuckin thing in every thread "boo hoo this team is bad". Like get a new bit. Is the entire offseason gonna be whiny like this?

Edited October 1, 2025Oct 1 by nrockway

9 minutes ago, nrockway said:

There's a constant tone of negativity on this board and it's typically misguided/not rooted in anything factual. I don't understand the urge of being a dick on the internet especially to fellow baseball/White Sox fans. No one's pounding their chest, I just used the  SoxTalk search feature to look at opinions of Crochet after he made a terrific postseason start. And found many of the remarks quite amusing and not surprising. The bullies are typically as wrong as they are uninsightful. I don't take it as seriously as you seem to.

I'll bump the Montgomery thread eventually. Maybe one of the Schultz threads in a few years. Also, notably, people keep re-bumping this thread to be like "why are you bumping this thread?" lol. Y'all could just ignore it. Or lock it. Or continue to talk about the same fuckin thing in every thread "boo hoo this team is bad". Like get a new bit. Is the entire offseason gonna be whiny like this?

It might help if they actually spent money on a legit FA???

8 minutes ago, nrockway said:

There's a constant tone of negativity on this board and it's typically misguided/not rooted in anything factual. I don't understand the urge of being a dick on the internet especially to fellow baseball/White Sox fans. No one's pounding their chest, I just used the  SoxTalk search feature to look at opinions of Crochet after he made a terrific postseason start. And found many of the remarks quite amusing and not surprising. The bullies are typically as wrong as they are uninsightful. I don't take it as seriously as you seem to.

I'll bump the Montgomery thread eventually. Maybe one of the Schultz threads in a few years. Also, notably, people keep re-bumping this thread to be like "why are you bumping this thread?" lol. Y'all could just ignore it. Or lock it. Or continue to talk about the same fuckin thing in every thread "boo hoo this team is bad". Like get a new bit. Is the entire offseason gonna be whiny like this?

Yet, you keep responding, telling people what they are allowed to say and think.   You act like you aren't just as guilty,  but are right here doggy paddling in the deep end of the cesspool. 

43 minutes ago, nrockway said:

There's a constant tone of negativity on this board and it's typically misguided/not rooted in anything factual. I don't understand the urge of being a dick on the internet especially to fellow baseball/White Sox fans. No one's pounding their chest, I just used the  SoxTalk search feature to look at opinions of Crochet after he made a terrific postseason start. And found many of the remarks quite amusing and not surprising. The bullies are typically as wrong as they are uninsightful. I don't take it as seriously as you seem to.

I'll bump the Montgomery thread eventually. Maybe one of the Schultz threads in a few years. Also, notably, people keep re-bumping this thread to be like "why are you bumping this thread?" lol. Y'all could just ignore it. Or lock it. Or continue to talk about the same fuckin thing in every thread "boo hoo this team is bad". Like get a new bit. Is the entire offseason gonna be whiny like this?

To be fair, Ray Pal has always had that same exact tone...regardless of whether the Sox were good or bad.

On 3/29/2024 at 6:52 PM, Ozzie for Manager said:

Maybe we could stop coddling pitchers and they would get stronger like they did for all of baseball history until the last 25 years.  

Well looks like letting crochet go out and pitch and build himself up worked out for him.  200+ innings this year.    Threw over 100 pitches 21x this year. 14 games of 7+ innings. 

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yet, you keep responding, telling people what they are allowed to say and think.   You act like you aren't just as guilty,  but are right here doggy paddling in the deep end of the cesspool. 

when do I tell people what to say or think lul I can be quoted as saying something along the lines "it would be boring if there weren't disparate viewpoints". I constantly disagree with caulfield and I think he's an awesome dude.

you seem to have that bullying instinct though.

Edited October 2, 2025Oct 2 by nrockway

12 minutes ago, nrockway said:

when do I tell people what to say or think lul I can be quoted as saying something along the lines "it would be boring if there weren't disparate viewpoints". I constantly disagree with caulfield and I think he's an awesome dude.

you seem to have that bullying instinct though.

Right. 

It wasn't just you bumping a thread from a year and a half ago to laugh at people.  The call is definitely coming from inside the house.

6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Right. 

It wasn't just you bumping a thread from a year and a half ago to laugh at people.  The call is definitely coming from inside the house.

Brother, I haven't seen a post of yours in months that wasn't a troll post. One or two sentences, dismissive, seemingly 'holier than thou'. No real analysis. Nothing in good faith. Nothing kind. God forbid I respond to a thread regardless of its date. Some forums have a policy to lock threads after a certain date. You have that power. Since that wasn't the case, I replied to it! I think you appreciate the discussion or you wouldn't have replied four times. Others seem to be replying to it as well considering it's the offseason and there isn't much to talk about besides "this team sux" and Garrett Crochet objectively rocks. I'd consider it a useful bump or else nobody would've replied to it. I made a serious thread a few weeks ago hoping to prompt discussion and nobody replied to it, aw shucks. 

I'm certainly not "laughing" at anyone. It isn't that serious. It's a bat and ball game. We're all fans of a team that is historically not very good and the more marginal team in our city of residence. The idea is that some might reflect on their emotionally-driven tirades and make more thoughtful posts in the future. Maybe a silly idea. You act as though I can control people's ways of thinking whereas we've recently determined that you admins control the weather, stalk posters, are possibly non-human entities, etc. I tend to think the admins are the ones to facilitate discussion and not relatively new users. You have more power over this matter than I do.

Genuinely, the discussion was interesting and there are a lot of posts that made no sense even at the time. I suspect time will progress and posts made over the past year will look similarly as misinformed. I'm mostly intrigued by the idea that Crochet could never be a starter because of his limited experience/injury history. I think it's akin to Montgomery being called a bust and now this talk of Noah Schultz. Jury is still out on Schultz or if Montgomery can repeat his awesomeness. I purposefully didn't quote any of your posts because I thought it might offend you, but it seemingly did regardless. I was trying to avoid conflict! You didn't have to respond, my friend!

6 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Brother, I haven't seen a post of yours in months that wasn't a troll post. One or two sentences, dismissive, seemingly 'holier than thou'. No real analysis. Nothing in good faith. Nothing kind. God forbid I respond to a thread regardless of its date. Some forums have a policy to lock threads after a certain date. You have that power. Since that wasn't the case, I replied to it! I think you appreciate the discussion or you wouldn't have replied four times. Others seem to be replying to it as well considering it's the offseason and there isn't much to talk about besides "this team sux" and Garrett Crochet objectively rocks. I'd consider it a useful bump or else nobody would've replied to it. I made a serious thread a few weeks ago hoping to prompt discussion and nobody replied to it, aw shucks. 

I'm certainly not "laughing" at anyone. It isn't that serious. It's a bat and ball game. We're all fans of a team that is historically not very good and the more marginal team in our city of residence. The idea is that some might reflect on their emotionally-driven tirades and make more thoughtful posts in the future. Maybe a silly idea. You act as though I can control people's ways of thinking whereas we've recently determined that you admins control the weather, stalk posters, are possibly non-human entities, etc. I tend to think the admins are the ones to facilitate discussion and not relatively new users. You have more power over this matter than I do.

Genuinely, the discussion was interesting and there are a lot of posts that made no sense even at the time. I suspect time will progress and posts made over the past year will look similarly as misinformed. I'm mostly intrigued by the idea that Crochet could never be a starter because of his limited experience/injury history. I think it's akin to Montgomery being called a bust and now this talk of Noah Schultz. Jury is still out on Schultz or if Montgomery can repeat his awesomeness. I purposefully didn't quote any of your posts because I thought it might offend you, but it seemingly did regardless. I was trying to avoid conflict! You didn't have to respond, my friend!

I think it's cool to bump the prediction threads. I certainly ate my share of crow over my embarrassing nailing of 60 wins and the w/l record on the morning of August 1st. I should have predicted Lotto numbers, too. It's only fair, as I still have welts on my heart over calling the 2024 spring training version of the bullpen "shutdown". 

19 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I think it's cool to bump the prediction threads. I certainly ate my share of crow over my embarrassing nailing of 60 wins and the w/l record on the morning of August 1st. I should have predicted Lotto numbers, too. It's only fair, as I still have welts on my heart over calling the 2024 spring training version of the bullpen "shutdown". 

I definitely thought the worst team ever might've been semi-competitive if everyone played to their utmost potential. Robert, Eloy, Moncada, Benintendi, etc. producing like they had in the past. That clearly didn't happen and the shame could've fried the egg all over my face. Bump whatever thread I discussed that and I would think "aw, whoops".

I think I had the Sox in the mid-70s for wins in 2024, so... oops.

What if the Sox had kept all these aces? 

2 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said:

What if the Sox had kept all these aces? 

The White Sox would just be $750 million to $1 billion in debt, according to Jerry's current thinking on big pitching deals.

10 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

To be fair, Ray Pal has always had that same exact tone...regardless of whether the Sox were good or bad.

People online really need to get out of their feelings and stop thinking things are personal. I never call people names or get personal. We're all just shooting the s%*# about the White sox. If I hurt your feelings, no offense but people should look in the mirror and ask how it's possible their feelings can get hurt talking about a baseball team. Pretty embarrassing!

The woe is me stuff is also super cringe. 

8 hours ago, nrockway said:

Brother, I haven't seen a post of yours in months that wasn't a troll post. One or two sentences, dismissive, seemingly 'holier than thou'. No real analysis. Nothing in good faith. Nothing kind. God forbid I respond to a thread regardless of its date. Some forums have a policy to lock threads after a certain date. You have that power. Since that wasn't the case, I replied to it! I think you appreciate the discussion or you wouldn't have replied four times. Others seem to be replying to it as well considering it's the offseason and there isn't much to talk about besides "this team sux" and Garrett Crochet objectively rocks. I'd consider it a useful bump or else nobody would've replied to it. I made a serious thread a few weeks ago hoping to prompt discussion and nobody replied to it, aw shucks. 

I'm certainly not "laughing" at anyone. It isn't that serious. It's a bat and ball game. We're all fans of a team that is historically not very good and the more marginal team in our city of residence. The idea is that some might reflect on their emotionally-driven tirades and make more thoughtful posts in the future. Maybe a silly idea. You act as though I can control people's ways of thinking whereas we've recently determined that you admins control the weather, stalk posters, are possibly non-human entities, etc. I tend to think the admins are the ones to facilitate discussion and not relatively new users. You have more power over this matter than I do.

Genuinely, the discussion was interesting and there are a lot of posts that made no sense even at the time. I suspect time will progress and posts made over the past year will look similarly as misinformed. I'm mostly intrigued by the idea that Crochet could never be a starter because of his limited experience/injury history. I think it's akin to Montgomery being called a bust and now this talk of Noah Schultz. Jury is still out on Schultz or if Montgomery can repeat his awesomeness. I purposefully didn't quote any of your posts because I thought it might offend you, but it seemingly did regardless. I was trying to avoid conflict! You didn't have to respond, my friend!

Pal, you're calling me a dick and getting upset about words on a screen. You need to take your own advice. None of this is that serious, and the one making emotionally driven posts appears to be you. 

Btw, I love bumping old threads. Some here don't like it, but I love it for the laughs. 

9 hours ago, nrockway said:

Brother, I haven't seen a post of yours in months that wasn't a troll post. One or two sentences, dismissive, seemingly 'holier than thou'. No real analysis. Nothing in good faith. Nothing kind. God forbid I respond to a thread regardless of its date. Some forums have a policy to lock threads after a certain date. You have that power. Since that wasn't the case, I replied to it! I think you appreciate the discussion or you wouldn't have replied four times. Others seem to be replying to it as well considering it's the offseason and there isn't much to talk about besides "this team sux" and Garrett Crochet objectively rocks. I'd consider it a useful bump or else nobody would've replied to it. I made a serious thread a few weeks ago hoping to prompt discussion and nobody replied to it, aw shucks. 

I'm certainly not "laughing" at anyone. It isn't that serious. It's a bat and ball game. We're all fans of a team that is historically not very good and the more marginal team in our city of residence. The idea is that some might reflect on their emotionally-driven tirades and make more thoughtful posts in the future. Maybe a silly idea. You act as though I can control people's ways of thinking whereas we've recently determined that you admins control the weather, stalk posters, are possibly non-human entities, etc. I tend to think the admins are the ones to facilitate discussion and not relatively new users. You have more power over this matter than I do.

Genuinely, the discussion was interesting and there are a lot of posts that made no sense even at the time. I suspect time will progress and posts made over the past year will look similarly as misinformed. I'm mostly intrigued by the idea that Crochet could never be a starter because of his limited experience/injury history. I think it's akin to Montgomery being called a bust and now this talk of Noah Schultz. Jury is still out on Schultz or if Montgomery can repeat his awesomeness. I purposefully didn't quote any of your posts because I thought it might offend you, but it seemingly did regardless. I was trying to avoid conflict! You didn't have to respond, my friend!

Everyone but you.  Got it.  

2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

People online really need to get out of their feelings and stop thinking things are personal. I never call people names or get personal. We're all just shooting the s%*# about the White sox. If I hurt your feelings, no offense but people should look in the mirror and ask how it's possible their feelings can get hurt talking about a baseball team. Pretty embarrassing!

The woe is me stuff is also super cringe. 

As an admin, in general I don't have a problem with people throwing sand in the sandbox.  It is par for the course in a place like this honestly.  It irritates me more when people throw sand, and then complain incessantly when people throw sand back.  If you are going to call people trolls,  don't then go troll other people.

15 hours ago, nrockway said:

There's a constant tone of negativity on this board and it's typically misguided/not rooted in anything factual. I don't understand the urge of being a dick on the internet especially to fellow baseball/White Sox fans. No one's pounding their chest, I just used the  SoxTalk search feature to look at opinions of Crochet after he made a terrific postseason start. And found many of the remarks quite amusing and not surprising. The bullies are typically as wrong as they are uninsightful. I don't take it as seriously as you seem to.

I'll bump the Montgomery thread eventually. Maybe one of the Schultz threads in a few years. Also, notably, people keep re-bumping this thread to be like "why are you bumping this thread?" lol. Y'all could just ignore it. Or lock it. Or continue to talk about the same fuckin thing in every thread "boo hoo this team is bad". Like get a new bit. Is the entire offseason gonna be whiny like this?

REALLY? YOU DON'T SAY? 

I simply can't fathom why a White Sox message board would seemingly be more negative than positive after going 162-324 in the last three years. 

SOMEONE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE! 

8 hours ago, Paulie4Pres said:

What if the Sox had kept all these aces? 

We Sox fans have A LOT of "what ifs" for this organization going back to 1981.