22 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I'm really not sure what Caulfield is doing. He seems to be praising Paddy, while mocking his contributions. 

This is the norm for a Caulfield post

I’m not sure what people are even arguing here.  Paddy legit failed at his job, regardless if he was somewhat compromised by Jerry.  We have consistently failed to fully utilize our international bonus pools in an effective manner under both Hahn and Getz (at least so far).  And no, one good trade for Batista by Hahn doesn’t change that narrative…there are multiple years of money going unspent, pool traded to teams to eat option costs, and slot being traded for relief prospects that all flamed out.  As for Keller, it’s way too early to draw firm conclusions there.  The early talk is highly promising but we need to see some results before we anoint him our LatAm savior.

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

I'm really not sure what Caulfield is doing. He seems to be praising Paddy, while mocking his contributions. 

He doesn’t know either but he’s excited

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

He doesn’t know either but he’s excited

Tony Dungy of ST.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not sure what people are even arguing here.

Just another borderline unreadable thread derailed by posters trying to out-snark each other.

5 minutes ago, Snopek said:

Just another borderline unreadable thread derailed by posters trying to out-snark each other.

Mic drops are fun, until we're knee-deep in microphones. 

7 minutes ago, Snopek said:

Just another borderline unreadable thread derailed by posters trying to out-snark each other.

The WestEddy vs. The World (and Scott Pilgrim) isn't working for you?

Well...sometimes TaylorStSox comes in as well to play Devil's Advocate, along with Cali in his new role as Southsider2k5 foil.

Edited January 19, 20251 yr by caulfield12

9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Mic drops are fun, until we're knee-deep in microphones. 

do you do spoken word/improv?

Always Be My Maybe's Russell Park seems to be your comedy ceiling here.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

SoxMachine from 2022 disagrees lol.

A day before Marco Paddy was named International Scout of the Year at the Winter Meetings, Baseball America indirectly showed why Paddy deserved such recognition.

BA released its 2023 preseason list of the top 10 White Sox prospects on Wednesday, and international signings make up more than half of it.

Here are those 10 White Sox prospects, with Paddy’s signings in bold:

1. Colson Montgomery
2. Oscar Colás (bust)
3. Bryan Ramos (fading)
4. Noah Schultz
5. Sean Burke
6. Cristian Mena (traded)
7. Peyton Pallette
8. Norge Vera (gone)
9. José Rodríguez
10. Lenyn Sosa (last chance) 

This is a huge jump over previous years, when the White Sox were lucky to have two hand-signed, homegrown international prospects in their top 10.

• 2013: 2
• 2014: 0
• 2015: 1
• 2016: 0
• 2017: 0
• 2018: 1
• 2019: 2
• 2020: 1
• 2021: 2
• 2022: 2
• 2023: 6
• https://soxmachine.com/2022/12/marco-paddys-work-is-finally-reflected-on-white-sox-top-prospect-lists/

 

Completely forgot about this dude.

On April 4, 2024, Jose Popeye Rodríguez was designated for assignment by Chicago.^[11

On April 5, 2024, Rodríguez was traded to the Philadelphia Phillies in exchange for cash consideration (yay for JR!!!).^[12] In 38 games for the Double–A Reading Fightin Phils, he batted .265/.329/.422 with four home runs, 18 RBI, and 12 stolen bases. On June 4, Rodríguez was suspended for one year by MLB for violating the league's sports betting policy.

source  Wikipedia

As of now, only 2 of MLB's top 30 White Sox prospects are Paddy signings (Ramos, Veras). It's quite possible that Marco Paddy had significant input for the acquisitions of Batista, Iriarte, Quero, Perez, Albertus, Bergolla, etc. 

My beef is with the "oh, only Getz was doing a good job in the old regime?" narrative. Like Chicago White Sox dude said, Paddy failed in his job. Yes, he delivered some big names, and his connections probably made guys like Colas and Vera tip-ins. There's plenty of blame to go around, between an outdated Dominican training site, reticence in adopting newer developmental ideas, and a wariness of Dominican prospect ages. International should have regularly contributed half of the top 10 prospects. The fact that your list regularly shows his contribution as 0-2 tells its own story, and not that the guys he recruited graduated out too quickly to rank. 

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

As of now, only 2 of MLB's top 30 White Sox prospects are Paddy signings (Ramos, Veras). It's quite possible that Marco Paddy had significant input for the acquisitions of Batista, Iriarte, Quero, Perez, Albertus, Bergolla, etc. 

My beef is with the "oh, only Getz was doing a good job in the old regime?" narrative. Like Chicago White Sox dude said, Paddy failed in his job. Yes, he delivered some big names, and his connections probably made guys like Colas and Vera tip-ins. There's plenty of blame to go around, between an outdated Dominican training site, reticence in adopting newer developmental ideas, and a wariness of Dominican prospect ages. International should have regularly contributed half of the top 10 prospects. The fact that your list regularly shows his contribution as 0-2 tells its own story, and not that the guys he recruited graduated out too quickly to rank. 

If ALL your STEM and STE(A)M friends volunteered for Sox analytics, would it make even the slightest dent in the Dodgers' march to world domination?

The Dominican has been a lost cause for over 15 years now since Dave Wilder.

But there are no excuses about completely ignoring Taiwan Korea (well, Fedde) Japan, Australia, Africa, India...

Paddy just got lazy and entitled.

Just like KW.

Hahn was just BAD...and Haber even worse.  Stupid is as stupid does.

10 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

As of now, only 2 of MLB's top 30 White Sox prospects are Paddy signings (Ramos, Veras). It's quite possible that Marco Paddy had significant input for the acquisitions of Batista, Iriarte, Quero, Perez, Albertus, Bergolla, etc. 

My beef is with the "oh, only Getz was doing a good job in the old regime?" narrative. Like Chicago White Sox dude said, Paddy failed in his job. Yes, he delivered some big names, and his connections probably made guys like Colas and Vera tip-ins. There's plenty of blame to go around, between an outdated Dominican training site, reticence in adopting newer developmental ideas, and a wariness of Dominican prospect ages. International should have regularly contributed half of the top 10 prospects. The fact that your list regularly shows his contribution as 0-2 tells its own story, and not that the guys he recruited graduated out too quickly to rank. 

Plenty of blame to go around, just not with the guy who was supposedly in charge. Keep telling your Chris Getz bobblehead that.

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If ALL your STEM and STE(A)M friends volunteered for Sox analytics, would it make even the slightest dent in the Dodgers' march to world domination?

The Dominican has been a lost cause for over 15 years now since Dave Wilder.

But there are no excuses about completely ignoring Taiwan Korea (well, Fedde) Japan, Australia, Africa, India...

Paddy just got lazy and entitled.

Just like KW.

Hahn was just BAD...and Haber even worse.  Stupid is as stupid does.

The organization just became insular. They stopped acting like a lean and mean company. David Keller and Getz at least seem hungry. 

Sure, it's interesting to talk about Africa, India and Europe as "untapped markets", but it would be great if we tapped into the Dominican first. 

23 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Plenty of blame to go around, just not with the guy who was supposedly in charge. Keep telling your Chris Getz bobblehead that.

And that makes zero sense. Perhaps you should ask the guy who started that dumb narrative what on Earth it's supposed to mean. 

4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The organization just became insular. They stopped acting like a lean and mean company. David Keller and Getz at least seem hungry. 

Sure, it's interesting to talk about Africa, India and Europe as "untapped markets", but it would be great if we tapped into the Dominican first. 

We’re about as “lean and mean” as Sizzlelean…at any rate, we did have Nicky Lopez and now George Wolkow from the “local” Chicagoland market.

Thinking Sasaki going forward, looking at Santander's deal at $18 million, then that means he makes $9 million income that can be taxed in Toronto, Ontario. Here is what TurboTax said,

$4.7 million in taxes on the $9 million he makes at home. That’s a big hit. Now we know why no HUGE star has signed there...they also went hard after Soto fwiw.

That's not counting the 81 road game checks taxed in the US at somewhere in the 30-40% range.  $18 million quickly becomes $10-11 million net after taxes.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Thinking Sasaki going forward, looking at Santander's deal at $18 million, then that means he makes $9 million income that can be taxed in Toronto, Ontario. Here is what TurboTax said,

$4.7 million in taxes on the $9 million he makes at home. That’s a big hit. Now we know why no HUGE star has signed there...they also went hard after Soto fwiw.

That's not counting the 81 road game checks taxed in the US at somewhere in the 30-40% range.  $18 million quickly becomes $10-11 million net after taxes.

Reduce taxes!

3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Reduce taxes!

Not much sympathy for professional athletes.

Even less for billionaire owners.

https://www.truebluela.com/2025/1/22/24349268/roki-sasaki-dodgers-baseball-america-top-100-prospects

Sasaki instantly ascends to Baseball America's #1 prospect status.  Jinx???

19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.truebluela.com/2025/1/22/24349268/roki-sasaki-dodgers-baseball-america-top-100-prospects

Sasaki instantly ascends to Baseball America's #1 prospect status.  Jinx???

Only if he also makes the cover of Sports Illustrated. 

35 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Only if he also makes the cover of Sports Illustrated. 

Probably coming in the next 4-6 weeks…

https://www.mlb.com/news/roki-sasaki-on-signing-with-dodgers

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/roki-sasaki-meets-lebron-james-lakers

Edited January 23, 20251 yr by caulfield12

Apparently, the Sox didn’t even have a seat at the table with Sasaki.  Probably because they didn’t fly Tadahito Iguchi in as well.  🤣

https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-have-high-hopes-for-colson-montgomery-in-2025

Quote

*Sasaki passed on in-person meeting**
The White Sox made a presentation to Roki Sasaki, the highly coveted international free-agent hurler from Japan, who eventually signed with the Dodgers. But they never moved to the meeting portion of the pursuit.

“It did not, it did not,” Getz said. “We put together a presentation. We were certainly hoping to get an in-person meeting. They decided to go a different direction to handle the interview process without the White Sox."

Edited January 24, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Apparently, the Sox didn’t even have a seat at the table with Sasaki.  Probably because they didn’t fly Tadahito Iguchi in as well.  🤣

https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-have-high-hopes-for-colson-montgomery-in-2025

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43520552/mlb-2025-los-angeles-dodgers-spending-payroll-baseball-future-roki-sasaki-shohei-ohtani

This story details the in-person stops that Toronto SD and LA pulled off to convince Sasaki...Toronto specoalized pitching recommendations to help him recover 1-2 mph on his 2023 FB really stand out here.

No mention of the White Sox lol...more praise for Toronto beating out some of the other big favorites.

https://sports.yahoo.com/analysis-past-trade-deadline-scrambles-113046937.html

Edited January 24, 20251 yr by caulfield12

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/43520552/mlb-2025-los-angeles-dodgers-spending-payroll-baseball-future-roki-sasaki-shohei-ohtani

This story details the in-person stops that Toronto SD and LA pulled off to convince Sasaki...Toronto specoalized pitching recommendations to help him recover 1-2 mph on his 2023 FB really stand out here.

No mention of the White Sox lol...more praise for Toronto beating out some of the other big favorites.

Sasaki just wasn’t impressed with the idea of meeting Benny the Bull at O’Hare Airport.  🤣

11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Apparently, the Sox didn’t even have a seat at the table with Sasaki.  Probably because they didn’t fly Tadahito Iguchi in as well.  🤣

https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-have-high-hopes-for-colson-montgomery-in-2025

A virtual seat at the virtual table.