45 minutes ago, hi8is said:

This baffles me. No idea why Pittsburgh would be willing to do this… I suppose they are figuring that they can get someone with equal or better talent now that is closer to contributing?

Who from our farm matches the bill and would make sense for us?

McDougal+ is probably who they would target.

Or Sandlin.

Edited Saturday at 04:00 AM2 days by caulfield12

4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

McDougal+ is probably who they would target.

Or Sandlin.

In what world is McDougal+ the cost of the 34th pick.

42 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In what world is McDougal+ the cost of the 34th pick.

Who in God's name would the Pirates possibly want that could help their big league team this season that the White Sox are actually willing to trade?

Grant Taylor isn't going anywhere.

Seems a lot of people are highly overrating two months of Gonzalez overachieving at Charlotte, especially after Keith Law's comments.

And the Pirates already have Nick Gonzalez at second and Griffin at SS anyway.

Sandlin fwiw was basically valued at $12.5 million since pretty much everyone already knew Hicks was unlikely to help the Sox.

Edited Saturday at 04:54 AM2 days by caulfield12

5 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Who in God's name would the Pirates possibly want that could help their big league team this season that the White Sox are actually willing to trade?

Grant Taylor isn't going anywhere.

Seems a lot of people are highly overrating two months of Gonzalez overachieving at Charlotte, especially after Keith Law's comments.

And the Pirates already have Nick Gonzalez at second and Griffin at SS anyway.

Sandlin fwiw was basically valued at $12.5 million since pretty much everyone already knew Hicks was unlikely to help the Sox.

I have no idea who they’d want or if we match up at all. Regardless, I’m not trading McDougal, who entered the season as a top 100 prospect at BA, plus other stuff for the 34th pick. I’m also not trading Jacob Gonzalez, who Kiley McDaniel has 2nd overall in our system after Bonemer (if you exclude Schultz & Braden) for the pick either. I’d love to get a comp pick, but trading away one of our top prospects who are major league ready is not the way to do it.

9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

McDougal+ is probably who they would target.

Or Sandlin.

The Pirates need bullpen help. I bet they would want Newcomb or Hudson, or obviously Taylor. Sox don’t have arms to spare, so seems like a weird match.

2 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

The Pirates need bullpen help. I bet they would want Newcomb or Hudson, or obviously Taylor. Sox don’t have arms to spare, so seems like a weird match.

Would have to be a three teamer with some club that wants prospects. I don’t see how we can from the major league roster right now.

33 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

The Pirates need bullpen help. I bet they would want Newcomb or Hudson, or obviously Taylor. Sox don’t have arms to spare, so seems like a weird match.

Newcomb isn’t exactly super cheap to the Pirates for a role player and Hudson still doesn’t have a long enough track record of mlb success at this point…

4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I have no idea who they’d want or if we match up at all. Regardless, I’m not trading McDougal, who entered the season as a top 100 prospect at BA, plus other stuff for the 34th pick. I’m also not trading Jacob Gonzalez, who Kiley McDaniel has 2nd overall in our system after Bonemer (if you exclude Schultz & Braden) for the pick either. I’d love to get a comp pick, but trading away one of our top prospects who are major league ready is not the way to do it.

if they only see him internally as a high reliever risk with the attendant injury concerns that go with elite velocity…then they would have to at least consider it.

He’s the only really intriguing guy other than Bonemer/Carlson.

If they still view him as a starter, you don’t trade him at diminished value.

Only Gonzalez, if other teams actually buy into his hitting changes remaining effective at the big league level would work then.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

if they only see him internally as a high reliever risk with the attendant injury concerns that go with elite velocity…then they would have to at least consider it.

He’s the only really intriguing guy other than Bonemer/Carlson.

If they still view him as a starter, you don’t trade him at diminished value.

Only Gonzalez, if other teams actually buy into his hitting changes remaining effective at the big league level would work then.

We aren’t trading any major league ready pitching for anything but major league pitching that is better suited to help us win now. I’d love another draft pick, but we already have a massive pool and can get a fuckton of talent regardless.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

if they only see him internally as a high reliever risk with the attendant injury concerns that go with elite velocity…then they would have to at least consider it.

He’s the only really intriguing guy other than Bonemer/Carlson.

If they still view him as a starter, you don’t trade him at diminished value.

Only Gonzalez, if other teams actually buy into his hitting changes remaining effective at the big league level would work then.

No one is trading Carlson or Bonemer for the 34th pick in the draft AND the Pirates think they are contenders. They are not looking for prospects.

9 hours ago, Timmy U said:

No one is trading Carlson or Bonemer for the 34th pick in the draft AND the Pirates think they are contenders. They are not looking for prospects.

Which is why the trade won't happen.

16 hours ago, Timmy U said:

The Pirates need bullpen help. I bet they would want Newcomb or Hudson, or obviously Taylor. Sox don’t have arms to spare, so seems like a weird match.

What have comp level picks fetched historically? I feel like the expectations regarding this topic are way off.