Something funny about Roch Cholowsky. He hit .125 last week. I've heard some use that as a negative. He also had a .500 OBP. The .125 was basically 1-8 lol with a bunch of walks and HBP. The microanalysis of this dude is nuts.

16 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Something funny about Roch Cholowsky. He hit .125 last week. I've heard some use that as a negative. He also had a .500 OBP. The .125 was basically 1-8 lol with a bunch of walks and HBP. The microanalysis of this dude is nuts.

Have any intel on prep pitching the Sox like? I'd love to land Blake Bryant, Hirschkorn, or Waechter. Nawrocki is one of my favorites too. Though I don't know how likely any of those guys are around for pick 3. I'd imagine prep bat is still the favorite for pick 2?

18 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Nawrocki

97.6 grade baseball name here

Nawrocki.

LHP/OF Lucas Nawrocki

Aledo HS, Aledo TX

Bats Throws Height Weight Age at draft

L L 5-11 190 18.6

Lucas Nawrocki

Scouting Report

Bats: L, Throws: L

Nawrocki is an undersized southpaw with enormous stuff and a chance to shut down opponents at the end of games if he doesn't ultimately stay in the rotation. He's also an accomplished hitter with a chance to two-way at the next level for the right team that believes in the stick.

Nawrocki is a supreme athlete with a super quick arm. He generates huge hip-shoulder separation, well-above average extension and outlier scap load to deliver a mid-90s fastball capable of blowing hitters away. Better still, Nawrocki's sub-5 foot launch height allows his entire arsenal to play way up. He hides the ball late through his delivery, launching from behind his ear out in front of his frame. He's cross-body and closed at release creating more angles and occlusion for the opposition to try and fight through. It's enormous spin capacity with fastballs sizzling north of 2700 rpm at their best. He's shown the ability to manipulate shapes, however at his best he's holding carry and pounding the top of the zone. When he's landing the heater at the top of the zone, it owns the traits of a true 80-grade fastball.

Nawrocki will sink and tail the fastball at the bottom of the zone when looking for chase. Nawrocki's control for the zone and command inside of the strike zone has taken a significant step forward over the last year. If he can get to average strike-throwing capacity, he's got a chance to be a starting pitcher at the next level with three disgusting pitches.

The slider here is just nasty. Nawrocki has been up to 87 and lives 82-85 with spin rates in excess of 3300 rpm at times. His breaker is a traditional sweeper that buckles hitters. Left-handers stand little chance when he's commanding the pitch. Right-handers are often frozen when he's able to back-door it. He's also shown the ability to land a mid-80s changeup that has depth with spin rates near 1500 rpm.

Both the fastball and sweeping breaking ball have 70-grade upside and both will occassionally flash outputs to suggest elite ceilings. Offensively, he refuses to swing-and-miss and has shown more feel for game power and bat speed than his 5-foot-11-inch frame would suggest off the bus. Scouts are bullish he will be able to put the puzzle together to reach his ceiling.

I have a soft-spot for undersized pitchers. He's also a low slot funky lefty. The profile sounds disgusting.

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by DirtySox

Not too late to hop on the Lackey train. 🙂

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by DirtySox

And another for Lackey

11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Without underslot, there is no overslot, except for the 5%. You don't get the next anyone without saving money somewhere else.

I get it. I accept that some punting is necessary to do get the players you want in the early rounds. But they need to be sharp and precise about it.

This started out with going overslot for high school pitching. High school pitching is the riskiest move their is in the draft

Fathom switching to Rambling Wreck pick?

8 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

I get it. I accept that some punting is necessary to do get the players you want in the early rounds. But they need to be sharp and precise about it.

This started out with going overslot for high school pitching. High school pitching is the riskiest move their is in the draft

They always spend with a few dollars of their cap. This is the one thing that the Sox do very exacting.

11 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Something funny about Roch Cholowsky. He hit .125 last week. I've heard some use that as a negative. He also had a .500 OBP. The .125 was basically 1-8 lol with a bunch of walks and HBP. The microanalysis of this dude is nuts.

Walk rate in college has basically no correlation to plate discipline and walk rate at the MLB level.

8 hours ago, DirtySox said:

Not too late to hop on the Lackey train. 🙂

The true #1 prospect.

7 hours ago, DirtySox said:

I think he could play 5 big league positions ++. I think he'd be an elite right fielder with his arm. He's also a great defensive catcher which is hard to move someone off of.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Look at Ray Ray Run

I wouldn't touch a 1,1, catcher HS or college with @ron883 's dick. Cool name though and one that will def be one of those "wait, Vahn Lackey is black" type things for awhile.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by chitownsportsfan

"He has an 80 arm (on the 20-80 scale) that would obviously let him play third base or in the outfield if someone wanted to move him to get his bat in the lineup more. I saw one in-game throw where he nailed a runner at second with a 1.75 second pop time, which is about as good as it gets.

The bat is pretty special, too, as he’s hitting .398/.519/.789 through the weekend with a team-leading 12 homers and improved batted-ball quality over last year. He’s a disciplined hitter who’s whiffed on 16 percent of his swings this year — just 9 percent on fastballs — and he’s chased pitches well out of the zone only 12 percent of the time, helping him walk more than he’s struck out on the season. There’s some extraneous movement at the start of his swing, with a big leg move backwards, but he finishes in a balanced spot that lets him get power from his hips as well as his hands.

He’s even continued hitting against better competition in ACC play, with a .354/.488/.723 line and nearly identical whiff and chase rates. Athletic catchers with value on both sides of the ball like this are extremely hard to find in college or high school, and of course, a player who can do both at that position has a chance to be one of the most valuable players in baseball."

from one month ago Law

C 3B/CF 1B either corner outfield spot

Would be considered a top prospect even if he wasn't a catcher.

2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I wouldn't touch a 1,1, catcher HS or college with @Ron883's dick. Cool name though and one that will def be one of those "wait, Vahn Lackey is black" type things for awhile.

Because of Joe Mauer and Buster Posey fizzling out early?

Rutschman?

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Because of Joe Mauer and Buster Posey fizzling out early?

Rutschman?

Buster has 57 (counting framing) career WAR and Mauer 55.5. If the Sox got anywhere near that from this pick they would be ecstatic.

Honestly, Lackey reminds me so much of Buster but he's got a better arm and he's a little better of an athlete but Buster had been better longer. Buster was a great athlete (he was a shortstop prospect who played short before moving to catcher and he was the closer at FSU) but lost a lot of it after the injury.

Edit: I thought buster was easily the best player in his class, and it was also my class so followed all those guys.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Look at Ray Ray Run

22 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I wouldn't touch a 1,1, catcher HS or college with @ron883 's dick. Cool name though and one that will def be one of those "wait, Vahn Lackey is black" type things for awhile.

I appreciate the call out for my penis. It means a lot.

FanGraphs Baseball

What Do You Do With a First-Round Catcher?

The Red Sox struck gold when Kyle Teel fell to them with the 14th pick. But the teams that took high school catchers in the first round are swimming upstream.

I don't like a catcher at 1,1, but I also like to be open to possibilities. Good writeup from fangraphs on the upside of them, and also some Teel porn.

I’m disappointed in the lack of Charles Johnson comps solely due to race

1 minute ago, fathom said:

I’m disappointed in the lack of Charles Johnson comps solely due to race

I mean that was the first thing that came to mind but we old. I was lucky enough to see Charles live on a spring baseball trip my soph year of HS down in FL when he was with the Marlins. He did indeed do his (at that point) infamous pregame routine of throwing it 300 feet from around home plate to the OF before the game. Very cool.

If he pans out seems like this kid will hit more than CJ did tho. We'll see. I do admit I'm intrigued watching him. Def a pretty stacked draft. Bulls and Sox in good positions.

As the resident GT fan, I do wonder how much being surrounded by the 27 Yankees is helping Lackey. It might be the best offensive team I’ve seen since the bats became a little less juiced.

I do wonder if the Sox are tinkering with the idea of drafting Lackey and moving Teel to the outfield? I highly doubt it, but then again, they put Vaughn in the outfield.