5 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:

I’d like to see you demonstrate that. If you’re a professional race walker, then sure.

Yeah, a walking mile in eight minutes would hurt if you aren't doing it almost every day.  It would be less impact to run it, than to try to racewalk 8 minute miles, if you were not a speedwalker.  That hipswing isn't easy.

5 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

An 8 min mile might be pretty good for an average human, for an MLB outfielder it's pathetic.  I would argue it's way more aerobic than you're making it out to be, the guy couldn't get to first base without pulling up lame, I'm simply trying to make the point that looking good with your shirt off and being "in shape" are two very different things. 

It’s anerobic. Baseball movement is short bursts of glycogen burns. 

6 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

An 8 min mile might be pretty good for an average human, for an MLB outfielder it's pathetic.  I would argue it's way more aerobic than you're making it out to be, the guy couldn't get to first base without pulling up lame, I'm simply trying to make the point that looking good with your shirt off and being "in shape" are two very different things. 

I would be surprised TBH.  Baseball player "shape" doesn't really dictate mileage types of training.  They need to be fast for short sprints, and not over distance.  A full out sprint around the bases is 360 feet.  A mile is 5280 feet.  It's a different type of fitness.

I wouldn’t be surprised that a lot of MLB players run 8 min miles because the sample set of above average athletes likely includes being able to move that quickly. And I am sure a ton of them run to stay fit. But Eloy doesn’t necessarily need to run an 8 min mile to do his job at all. I’m guessing he just isn’t loaded with a lot of quick twitch muscle fiber, and people like that when required to do sudden athletic movements tend to pull things more often than quick twitch people

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hey soxtalk, so when are we running "the mile"? sounds like 8 minutes is the marker to beat. Or 10 if you're walking.

Recently set a personal best in the mile. Made it about 1200 feet

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

hey soxtalk, so when are we running "the mile"? sounds like 8 minutes is the marker to beat. Or 10 if you're walking.

Sox normally do a 5k every year around the stadium. We can make it an event. Winner gets to pick 1 poster to ban for a year.

9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Sox normally do a 5k every year around the stadium. We can make it an event. Winner gets to pick 1 poster to ban for a year.

We only need the dudes who think anyone can do 8 minutes

 

Really didn't expect this to take off like it did.  I think you guys are all sorely mistaken on what it takes to be a professional athlete.  Middle school females run miles sub 8 minutes routinely.  Anyone that takes fitness seriously runs sub 7 min miles with ease.  You guys are acting like this is some absurd feat of physical fitness to expect a major league outfielder to be able to run a mile.  

1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Sox normally do a 5k every year around the stadium. We can make it an event. Winner gets to pick 1 poster to ban for a year.

I will ban myself for making this topic garner this many posts, I wish there was something better to talk about in the world of Soxdom. 

Does 10:38 for two miles 38 years ago count?  Switch to 5k in cross country killed me, 16:40 the best for 3.1 miles.

Now I just prefer to walk. No weird hip-twisting speed walking though...just a brisk pace.

Playing soccer in spring seasons probably helped...but running was never freeing or liberating or "transcendant/al" or whatever.  Just burned the heck out of your lungs and limbs lol.

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44 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Really didn't expect this to take off like it did.  I think you guys are all sorely mistaken on what it takes to be a professional athlete.  Middle school females run miles sub 8 minutes routinely.  Anyone that takes fitness seriously runs sub 7 min miles with ease.  You guys are acting like this is some absurd feat of physical fitness to expect a major league outfielder to be able to run a mile.  

It just depends on sport and training. Take track. Elite distance runners can run a 26.2 marathon averaging well under 5 minutes per mile.

A sprinter your 100 and 200 meter runner can barely run 1 mile in under your 8 minutes. Why? They never train at distances over 400 meters.

It's all about your training. It's referred to as SAID. Specific Adaptation to Imposed Demands. 

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

We only need the dudes who think anyone can do 8 minutes

 

1 hour ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Is that Luis Robert running to first base?

7 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

We only need the dudes who think anyone can do 8 minutes

 

10 minute walk, southsider. sounds like you're getting banned. 

7 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

We only need the dudes who think anyone can do 8 minutes

 

If you're talking to me, I never said everyone could do 8 minute miles.  I'd bet a large percentage of the population couldn't (without being in, or getting in shape that is).  I said an 8 minute mile isn't killing it if you do run.  Two entirely different things.

6 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Is this a pulled hammy or an accidental Hershey squirt?  It’s not definitive.

It seems that many commenting on how long it should take to walk or run a mile have never walked or ran a mile.  A good, fast pace for walking a mile is about 15 minutes (I'm not talking about Olympic speed-walking).  I do a three mile walk every morning, keeping a quick pace, and average about 15-16 minutes per mile.  I'm in my early 50s, so I'm sure younger, in-shape folks can walk quicker.  A good pace for running a mile is 6-7 minutes.  The world record is just over four minutes.

All that being said, judging a professional athlete on how fast they can walk or run a mile isn't adequate.  Moncada and Eloy may look to be in shape, but their bodies a constantly breaking down for one reason or another.  Maybe they do a lot of lifting but don't focus on endurance and stretching.  Whatever it is, these guys don't seem to take total fitness seriously.

58 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

It seems that many commenting on how long it should take to walk or run a mile have never walked or ran a mile.  A good, fast pace for walking a mile is about 15 minutes (I'm not talking about Olympic speed-walking).  I do a three mile walk every morning, keeping a quick pace, and average about 15-16 minutes per mile.  I'm in my early 50s, so I'm sure younger, in-shape folks can walk quicker.  A good pace for running a mile is 6-7 minutes.  The world record is just over four minutes.

All that being said, judging a professional athlete on how fast they can walk or run a mile isn't adequate.  Moncada and Eloy may look to be in shape, but their bodies a constantly breaking down for one reason or another.  Maybe they do a lot of lifting but don't focus on endurance and stretching.  Whatever it is, these guys don't seem to take total fitness seriously.

Wotld record is in the 3:40s. It was broken 3 times in the last month for indoor season.

Again they don't need total fitness. They need power and explosiveness not endurance. They train for their sport. Watch olympic sprinting. Do they not look fit?

14 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Wotld record is in the 3:40s. It was broken 3 times in the last month for indoor season.

Again they don't need total fitness. They need power and explosiveness not endurance. They train for their sport. Watch olympic sprinting. Do they not look fit?

Olympic sprinters look very fit.  But in regards to the oft-injured Moncada, maybe endurance isn't the right word.  It seems like he and Eloy are not taking care of themselves properly for the sport they are playing.  Constantly pulling/tearing hamstrings, tits, and other body parts tells me they are not doing what they need to do to stay healthy.

Baseball is a unique sport in which different positions require different levels of fitness on different parts of the body.  Think Lance Lynn, Bartolo Colon, etc.  However, a guy who should be a power hitter, a decently quick runner, and have fast reaction time needs to be in pretty good shape.  I don't know what Moncada's problem is, but it seems like he hasn't made the adjustments necessary to stay healthy.

1 hour ago, hogan873 said:

Olympic sprinters look very fit.  But in regards to the oft-injured Moncada, maybe endurance isn't the right word.  It seems like he and Eloy are not taking care of themselves properly for the sport they are playing.  Constantly pulling/tearing hamstrings, tits, and other body parts tells me they are not doing what they need to do to stay healthy.

Baseball is a unique sport in which different positions require different levels of fitness on different parts of the body.  Think Lance Lynn, Bartolo Colon, etc.  However, a guy who should be a power hitter, a decently quick runner, and have fast reaction time needs to be in pretty good shape.  I don't know what Moncada's problem is, but it seems like he hasn't made the adjustments necessary to stay healthy.

I don't disagree. They aren't doing something right for their bodies shown by the constant soft tissue injuries.

Not knowing their off season training it's hard to pinpoint what it is. But my guess would be they do the power but not the flexibility. Either that or they get their strength from better living through chemistry 

16 hours ago, ptatc said:

It just depends on sport and training. Take track. Elite distance runners can run a 26.2 marathon averaging well under 5 minutes per mile.

A sprinter your 100 and 200 meter runner can barely run 1 mile in under your 8 minutes. Why? They never train at distances over 400 meters.

It's all about your training. It's referred to as SAID. Specific Adaptation to Imposed Demands. 

Respectfully disagree that a sprinter can barely run a mile in under 8 minutes, again, children can do it with ease. 

Some people meed to getp out this weekend on the trail with a good GPS watch (not apple without data), and actually try to run an eight min mile. It’s going to be a rude awakening.

55 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Respectfully disagree that a sprinter can barely run a mile in under 8 minutes, again, children can do it with ease. 

Children?  I sure don't see it happening "with ease".  Some do, but not a ton.