Lip Man 1 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Daryl Van Schouwen of the Sun-Times announced he is taking a buy out and retiring at the end of spring training. He was the Sun-Times beat writer for 15 seasons. It will be interesting to see if the Sun-Times decides to keep covering the team with a dedicated beat writer. Remember the Tribune went a few years without doing so given the state of the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 34 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Daryl Van Schouwen of the Sun-Times announced he is taking a buy out and retiring at the end of spring training. He was the Sun-Times beat writer for 15 seasons. It will be interesting to see if the Sun-Times decides to keep covering the team with a dedicated beat writer. Remember the Tribune went a few years without doing so given the state of the franchise. I heard that too. Too bad, he is a good one. I think he's ben in the business nearly 40 if I remember right. Enjoy retirement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout? How much could his salary even have been? Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: 37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout? How much could his salary even have been? Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account? Sun Times is losing seven writers to buy outs all told including Rick Morrissey. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 58 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: 37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout? How much could his salary even have been? Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account? It’s a dying industry and given his tenure he probably makes a lot more than a potential replacement. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Hire Fegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: It’s a dying industry and given his tenure he probably makes a lot more than a potential replacement. I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I doubt they hire anybody full time. Dying industry covering a terminally ill franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 25 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. hahahahahahahaha, this is gold. Well done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 21 hours ago, WestEddy said: I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. Hey I’d do that. I’m looking for work anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 21 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: hahahahahahahaha, this is gold. Well done. Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world. Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world. Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money? Oh you were serious? Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh you were serious? Nevermind. Bad form. If you're going to openly mock somebody, have the balls to explain what you think is so funny. i suppose I'll figure out a way to ask my original question from someone who actually might know the answer. Edited March 14 by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world. Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money? I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox. Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one. And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap. Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for. But I’m sure he loves what he does. Edited March 14 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox. Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one. And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap. Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for. But I’m sure he loves what he does. In hindsight I should have gone to school for journalism instead of business as I enjoy it more. But I didn’t know that at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 20 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: In hindsight I should have gone to school for journalism instead of business as I enjoy it more. But I didn’t know that at the time. Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox. Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one. And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap. Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for. But I’m sure he loves what he does. Yeah, I grabbed Mike as an example of "online person who writes articles on the Sox", not to disparage him. So it's branding and quality control. I also surmise that if you're paying an outside guy, there's enough of a supply to not have to pay an editor to call for major rewrites and such. Pick a newspaper on Facebook, and half of the articles they post are from other sources (fox, CNN), rather than in house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 24 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. It’s just tough to find work right now but I suppose that’s the case for a lot of fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 56 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Bad form. If you're going to openly mock somebody, have the balls to explain what you think is so funny. i suppose I'll figure out a way to ask my original question from someone who actually might know the answer. I obviously thought you were mocking the idea of a twitter troll being on a serious journalistic payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I obviously thought you were mocking the idea of a twitter troll being on a serious journalistic payroll. It was more a question about newspapers just outsourcing areas of sports reporting. I made it a bit extreme by picking Mike, a Twitter personality who offers more analysis than reporting, but I picked him because he's here, and a person most everyone would know whom I was talking about. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 26 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: It’s just tough to find work right now but I suppose that’s the case for a lot of fields. What was your major specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: What was your major specifically? I majored in business with a marketing concentration. I’ve been looking for marketing jobs but they are extremely competitive. Not sure where I should go from here. Edited March 14 by ChiSoxFanMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: I majored in business with a marketing concentration. I’ve been looking for marketing jobs but they are extremely competitive. Not sure where I should go from here. What area in the Chicagoland area are you looking for? Edited March 14 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 22 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: What area in the Chicagoland area are you looking for? I’m in Gurnee, so somewhere in that area would be ideal for my current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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