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DVS retiring...

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Daryl Van Schouwen of the Sun-Times announced he is taking a buy out and retiring at the end of spring training. He was the Sun-Times beat writer for 15 seasons.

It will be interesting to see if the Sun-Times decides to keep covering the team with a dedicated beat writer. Remember the Tribune went a few years without doing so given the state of the franchise.  

34 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Daryl Van Schouwen of the Sun-Times announced he is taking a buy out and retiring at the end of spring training. He was the Sun-Times beat writer for 15 seasons.

It will be interesting to see if the Sun-Times decides to keep covering the team with a dedicated beat writer. Remember the Tribune went a few years without doing so given the state of the franchise.  

I heard that too. Too bad, he is a good one. I think he's ben in the business nearly 40 if I remember right.

Enjoy retirement!

37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout?  How much could his salary even have been?  Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account?

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18 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout?  How much could his salary even have been?  Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account?

Sun Times is losing seven writers to buy outs all told including Rick Morrissey. 

58 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

37 years and the cheap Sun Times offered their only Sox beat reporter a buyout?  How much could his salary even have been?  Maybe they can replace him with an 18 year old kid with his own personal iPhone and a free ChatGPT account?

It’s a dying industry and given his tenure he probably makes a lot more than a potential replacement.

Hire Fegan

13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

It’s a dying industry and given his tenure he probably makes a lot more than a potential replacement.

I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. 

I doubt they hire anybody full time. Dying industry covering a terminally ill franchise.

25 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. 

hahahahahahahaha, this is gold.  Well done.

21 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I guess the unions keep them from grabbing up somebody like ChiSoxFanMike, giving him a press pass, and paying him minimum wage to cover home games, and maybe games in cities within a 5 hours' drive. 

Hey I’d do that. I’m looking for work anyway.

21 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

hahahahahahahaha, this is gold.  Well done.

Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world.

Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money?

8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world.

Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money?

Oh you were serious?  Nevermind.

9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Oh you were serious?  Nevermind.

Bad form. If you're going to openly mock somebody, have the balls to explain what you think is so funny. i suppose I'll figure out a way to ask my original question from someone who actually might know the answer. 

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15 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Can you explain the joke? Not picking on Mike, but I'm guessing that the union agreement keeps The Sun-Times from outsourcing local sports coverage to a blogger-level guy in exchange for a press pass and a nominal article fee. Because at this point, newspapers are beyond a dying industry. Whatever papers are left are like random dudes scavenging cities in a post-apocalyptic world.

Maybe it's the wording. Why wouldn't a paper just outsource coverage of a local team to save money?

I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox.  Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one.  And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap.  Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for.  But I’m sure he loves what he does.

Edited by WhiteSox2023

10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox.  Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one.  And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap.  Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for.  But I’m sure he loves what he does.

In hindsight I should have gone to school for journalism instead of business as I enjoy it more. But I didn’t know that at the time.

20 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

In hindsight I should have gone to school for journalism instead of business as I enjoy it more. But I didn’t know that at the time.

Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. 

27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I realize it’s a dying industry and no offense to ChiSoxMike as he may have good credentials that I am unaware of, but even the Sun Times is going to want someone with experience rather than hire anyone off the street with a Twitter account with posts about the Sox.  Even though newspapers as a form of media are almost dead, they still have an online presence, albeit a weak one.  And even with experience, I bet the pay is crap.  Fegan looks like a young dude, but I can only imagine the low pay he is working for.  But I’m sure he loves what he does.

Yeah, I grabbed Mike as an example of "online person who writes articles on the Sox", not to disparage him. So it's branding and quality control. I also surmise that if you're paying an outside guy, there's enough of a supply to not have to pay an editor to call for major rewrites and such. Pick a newspaper on Facebook, and half of the articles they post are from other sources (fox, CNN), rather than in house. 

16 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. 

Agreed.

24 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Looking at the media landscape, you probably made the right choice. 

It’s just tough to find work right now but I suppose that’s the case for a lot of fields.

56 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Bad form. If you're going to openly mock somebody, have the balls to explain what you think is so funny. i suppose I'll figure out a way to ask my original question from someone who actually might know the answer. 

I obviously thought you were mocking the idea of a twitter troll being on a serious journalistic payroll.

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I obviously thought you were mocking the idea of a twitter troll being on a serious journalistic payroll.

It was more a question about newspapers just outsourcing areas of sports reporting. I made it a bit extreme by picking Mike, a Twitter personality who offers more analysis than reporting, but I picked him because he's here, and a person most everyone would know whom I was talking about. 

thanks

26 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

It’s just tough to find work right now but I suppose that’s the case for a lot of fields.

What was your major specifically?

36 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

What was your major specifically?

I majored in business with a marketing concentration. I’ve been looking for marketing jobs but they are extremely competitive. Not sure where I should go from here.

Edited by ChiSoxFanMike

16 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

I majored in business with a marketing concentration. I’ve been looking for marketing jobs but they are extremely competitive. Not sure where I should go from here.

What area in the Chicagoland area are you looking for?

Edited by Bob Sacamano

22 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

What area in the Chicagoland area are you looking for?

I’m in Gurnee, so somewhere in that area would be ideal for my current situation.

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