9 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’d rather let Sosa stick at 2B and see if he can become a plus player. 

Someone doesn’t think much of Meidroth…

😉

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He’s played a tiny amount of CF in his career, but I doubt he’s a guy you’d want out there everyday.

As for Vaughn, I just think he gets DFAed at some point.  I have more faith in Vargas & Sosa hitting and at some point the 1B/DH room will get crowded once the AAA reinforcements arrive.

Plus you have Elko as well.

30 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

This post is wild to me.  Canario is one of the worst contact hitters in all of baseball.  His contact rate in AAA would have been the worst in the majors by two full percentage points.  Why is that going to get better in the majors when he consistently faces quality pitching?  You’ve become so attached to his power that you have ignored that he brings nothing else to the table.  When he was DFAed by the Cubs, not one of 29 GMs was willing to trade a prospect for him.

Meanwhile, Brooks Baldwin is an extremely versatile player who provides good defense all over the field.  Offensively he’s well rounded with solid tools across the board.  However, the kid is just a pure “baseball player” and maximizes his physical ability.  If you watched him in AA last year, he just has that “it” factor as a hitter.  You say his ceiling is a super utility guy, I’d argue that’s his floor.  If we gave him everyday at-bats I see him being a ~1.5 win player at minimum.  If he can grow into a bit more power and become just a bit more disciplined at the plate, I could see a guy who is a 2.5 to 3.0 win player who effectively serves as your 10th man rotating across the field on an everyday basis.  Having a guy like that is super fucking valuable…he’s basically a Dodgers prototype prospect.

Omg...he's our next Leury 

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Plus you have Elko as well.

Career minor leaguer.

6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Career minor leaguer.

Sure he could be another Palka...but we already know exactly what Vaughn is and isn't.

Guess Fuller will have his own takes.

Strider will be a big test for all our AAA hitters.

32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

This post is wild to me.  Canario is one of the worst contact hitters in all of baseball.  His contact rate in AAA would have been the worst in the majors by two full percentage points.  Why is that going to get better in the majors when he consistently faces quality pitching?  You’ve become so attached to his power that you have ignored that he brings nothing else to the table.  When he was DFAed by the Cubs, not one of 29 GMs was willing to trade a prospect for him.

Meanwhile, Brooks Baldwin is an extremely versatile player who provides good defense all over the field.  Offensively he’s well rounded with solid tools across the board.  However, the kid is just a pure “baseball player” and maximizes his physical ability.  If you watched him in AA last year, he just has that “it” factor as a hitter.  You say his ceiling is a super utility guy, I’d argue that’s his floor.  If we gave him everyday at-bats I see him being a ~1.5 win player at minimum.  If he can grow into a bit more power and become just a bit more disciplined at the plate, I could see a guy who is a 2.5 to 3.0 win player who effectively serves as your 10th man rotating across the field on an everyday basis.  Having a guy like that is super fucking valuable…he’s basically a Dodgers prototype prospect.

That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired.

Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors.  Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out.

11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Sure he could be another Palka...but we already know exactly what Vaughn is and isn't.

Guess Fuller will have his own takes.

Strider will be a big test for all our AAA hitters.

Another Palka?  Another -1.0 WAR player in 500 career at bats?  Heh, I’ll pass.

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18 minutes ago, fathom said:

I’d rather let Sosa stick at 2B and see if he can become a plus player. 

My post was referring to the lineup after the trade deadline and once all the AAA reinforcements are up.  Sosa should be playing 2B most days until the infield situation gets more crowded.  I do see him losing significant playing time there once Montgomery & Meidroth are both up.

17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Someone doesn’t think much of Meidroth…

😉

Fathom is definitely the low man on Chase.

Fun game thread already. 

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

My post was referring to the lineup after the trade deadline and once all the AAA reinforcements are up.  Sosa should be playing 2B most days until the infield situation gets more crowded.  I do see him losing significant playing time there once Montgomery & Meidroth are both up.

If Sosa breaks out, I’m not so sure he is losing playing time to Meidroth.  But I have no idea what the Sox would do to figure out that situation with Sosa/Meidroth, and I’m not sure 1B would be the answer.  I guess it would be a good problem to have.

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16 minutes ago, Ducksnort said:

Omg...he's our next Leury 

Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile?  Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players.

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile?  Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players.

Both switch hitters.

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired.

Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors.  Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out.

He was over 30% in AAA last year.  He’s not as bad as Jones, but he also brings nothing else to the table but power and has no options.  And don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting the Jones pickup.  I’m just arguing that Canario is a highly flawed prospect whereas Baldwin is super fucking underrated.

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Both switch hitters.

Both are more  known for speed and versatility than power.

14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He was over 30% in AAA last year.  He’s not as bad as Jones, but he also brings nothing else to the table but power and has no options.  And don’t get me wrong, I’m not supporting the Jones pickup.  I’m just arguing that Canario is a highly flawed prospect whereas Baldwin is super fucking underrated.

I get it.  He strikes out a lot.  All power hitters do.  With massive power comes strikeouts.  Can he improve?  Maybe?  If players can’t, Wolkow is already a bust with his 40% strikeout rate.  I have also heard differing opinions on Canario’s defense.  He did play some CF but I know his injuries may have diminished some of his defensive ability.

Once again, I have stated this numerous times.  If the Sox were a .500 team and had any shot of competing, I would never suggest adding the guy.  But this team has the flexibility to give at bats to a project, as they are expected to be one of the worst teams in baseball and are currently playing relics in their corner outfield.

For a team and two GM’s in a row that have failed to find a corner OF power bat for years, I find it funny that people are appalled by the idea of trying the guy in what will be another shitshow season.  If he sucks, who cares?  So did Colas, DeLoach, and Fletcher…

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I don't see why Ramos should have a spot over Baldwin or Vargas. Or Canario for that matter, in event Sox pick him up. Maybe I'm missing something with Ramos, but he didn't look very good to me

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Are you ripping Baldwin for being versatile?  Because there is nothing else in common between him and Leury as baseball players.

Hey, I loved me some Leury Legend. No ripping going on here. However, as already mentioned they are both switch hitters, both primarily contact guys, both platoon (Brooks likely to be anyway).

Although I think Baldwin as a lot more upside 

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20 minutes ago, 46DidIt said:

I don't see why Ramos should have a spot over Baldwin or Vargas. Or Canario for that matter, in event Sox pick him up. Maybe I'm missing something with Ramos, but he didn't look very good to me

Good point.  Some people bashing Canario like crazy but have Ramos and his sub-.800 OPS already targeted to start in LF.

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31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

That would actually be Greg Jones with a 34% strikeout rate in the minors, whom our GM just acquired.

Canario is at around a 26% strikeout rate in the minors.  Like I said, he could bust but I’d like to find out.

You keep bringing Greg Jones in as a comparison, but he really isn't. His main carrying tool is his speed. The reports express a belief that his defense in CF can be elite. If the hitting coaches can do with him what they're trying with Wolkow (ease up on the power swing a bit to have more control) you have a valuable bench piece. 

The most valuable thing about Jones right now is that last option that allows the Sox to work with him at AAA. 

12 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

You keep bringing Greg Jones in as a comparison, but he really isn't. His main carrying tool is his speed. The reports express a belief that his defense in CF can be elite. If the hitting coaches can do with him what they're trying with Wolkow (ease up on the power swing a bit to have more control) you have a valuable bench piece. 

The most valuable thing about Jones right now is that last option that allows the Sox to work with him at AAA. 

So why can our coaches help 27 year old Greg Jones with his even worse strikeout rate but not help 24 year old Canario with his?  We do have hitting coaches on the big league club as well, right?

Why is every thread on this board suddenly about Canario? Maybe he’s gonna be good or bad but he’s hardly the most important story in mlb.

7 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Why is every thread on this board suddenly about Canario? Maybe he’s gonna be good or bad but he’s hardly the most important story in mlb.

Cuz @Chicago White Sox brought his name up first on the first page of this game thread.  🤣

12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So why can our coaches help 27 year old Greg Jones with his even worse strikeout rate but not help 24 year old Canario with his?  We do have hitting coaches on the big league club as well, right?

It's almost like a baseball team would rather work with a guy who has minor league options and can be groomed as an emergency 4th OF replacement with elite speed and defense instead of picking up another player who must go on the major league roster and then work on his chase rates and middling defense against the best players in the world. 

11 pitch leadoff single.  Yikes.