April 1, 20251 yr Too rich for JR's blood... Kristian Campbell is likely the next contract domino to fall...Roman Anthony would be right there with him. Red Sox paying a lot of money to ex-White Sox, if you include Lucas Giolito. Do Getz, Katz, Bannister get a commission?? Edited April 1, 20251 yr by caulfield12
April 1, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, TheBooneLoganEra said: That's a really reasonable deal. There it is . Not sure I'd call it reasonable . That's a lot guaranteed money for a guy with his injury history and not one complete MLB season. I'd call it a great deal for him though. I always knew he'd be smart to try to get a deal done as quick as possible.
April 1, 20251 yr Feels like he left a lot of money on the table. That's a 2019 type extension... Quick maths say he puts up a conservative 15 WAR over the next 6 years that's still only like $13/million per win over replacement. If he balls out and puts up like 25 WAR Red Sox have one of the best ace contracts in baseball. Edited April 1, 20251 yr by chitownsportsfan
April 1, 20251 yr 9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Feels like he left a lot of money on the table. That's a 2019 type extension... Quick maths say he puts up a conservative 15 WAR over the next 6 years that's still only like $13/million per win over replacement. If he balls out and puts up like 25 WAR Red Sox have one of the best ace contracts in baseball. It's a fair deal based on the possibility he blows out his elbow again with the elevated velocity he throws at...
April 1, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Feels like he left a lot of money on the table. That's a 2019 type extension... Nah he still had 2 yrs to go before FA. The wheels can fall off very quickly. Largest deal ever for a pitcher with only a little over 4 years of service and quite a bit of it was injured.
April 1, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And an opt out after 2030. Feels like his agent could have gotten that to 2029.
April 1, 20251 yr 9 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Nah he still had 2 yrs to go before FA. The wheels can fall off very quickly. Largest deal ever for a pitcher with only a little over 4 years of service and quite a bit of it was injured. The opt out makes it make more sense for him but still feels like his agent capitulated, and to be fair when you're a pitcher, sometimes the client knows best as you pointed out he had tremendous downside risk.
April 1, 20251 yr Since verbally masturbating your previous posts is a thing now, me calling the Glasnow extension a starting point was right on target.
April 1, 20251 yr This deal is why it was wise to trade him at peak value. Jerry would never ok that number for a player, let alone a pitcher with Crochet’s injury history. Maybe someday Sox fans will be able to have nice things, but that day is not today or anytime soon.
April 1, 20251 yr 18 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: The opt out makes it make more sense for him but still feels like his agent capitulated, and to be fair when you're a pitcher, sometimes the client knows best as you pointed out he had tremendous downside risk. You can either take $170M or risk it all while you make $20M combined (maybe) in 2025 and 2026 and if you have a major injury in that time you lose a huge chunk of change .Not sure what his Arb salaries would have been for those 2 yrs. This is when smart players who don't get too greedy get out the scales and say yeah I'll take $170M right now thank you. Edited April 1, 20251 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
April 1, 20251 yr Well, except for the fact that Glasnow had 530 previous big league innings...and 7-8 years of an established track record, with 120 and 88 innings being his previous career highs before 134 last season.
April 1, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Since verbally masturbating your previous posts is a thing now, me calling the Glasnow extension a starting point was right on target. They weren't really comparable. DeGrom's the only pitcher who got almost the same for roughly the same amount of service time.
April 1, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: They weren't really comparable. DeGrom's the only pitcher who got almost the same for roughly the same amount of service time. And he was pretty clearly the best pitcher in baseball at the time of that contract, granted, once again...the injury concerns already creeping in. Skubal at $200 million as the reigning Cy Young and an equally hard-throwing lefty unicorn is pretty close. Edited April 1, 20251 yr by caulfield12
April 1, 20251 yr 32 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: There it is . Not sure I'd call it reasonable . That's a lot guaranteed money for a guy with his injury history and not one complete MLB season. I'd call it a great deal for him though. I always knew he'd be smart to try to get a deal done as quick as possible. If he stays healthy he's worth 300+ million easily.
April 1, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: If he stays healthy he's worth 300+ million easily. And there's the $170-300 million question for all of baseball, JR, John Henry, etc. Reinsdorf has been betting ever since the John Danks contract that no pitcher's worth more than a 3 year guaranteed contract.
April 1, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: And there's the $170-300 million question for all of baseball, JR, John Henry, etc. Reinsdorf has been betting ever since the John Danks contract that no pitcher's worth more than a 3 year guaranteed contract. The amazing thing is garrett only has to be healthy for about 3 years at his level of talent to be worth his contract. Meaning he could basically be out for 50% of the contract. I don't blame garrett for taking the money - he's been through a lot - and he'll be able to be a FA at 30 where he can get paid again.
April 1, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The amazing thing is garrett only has to be healthy for about 3 years at his level of talent to be worth his contract. Meaning he could basically be out for 50% of the contract. I don't blame garrett for taking the money - he's been through a lot - and he'll be able to be a FA at 30 where he can get paid again. It has been pretty remarkable how Kopech, Burger, Giolito, Crochet and Rodon all came out the other side of major injuries (or multiple injuries) and all pretty much have landed on their feet so far in terms of stabilizing their careers. Lucas seemingly was very fortunate to get that two year Boston offer... Reynaldo's on the shelf yet again for the Braves.
April 1, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The amazing thing is garrett only has to be healthy for about 3 years at his level of talent to be worth his contract. Meaning he could basically be out for 50% of the contract. I don't blame garrett for taking the money - he's been through a lot - and he'll be able to be a FA at 30 where he can get paid again. said as much above. I guess it's a historic deal all around with both sides leaving them open to the tail risks.
April 1, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: said as much above. I guess it's a historic deal all around with both sides leaving them open to the tail risks. Plus Boston already has the relatively big Devers extension on the books, as well as Story and Bregman...and they still have to deal with Campbell, Anthony, Mayer, Casas (lower priority), Rafaela, Duran, Abreu, etc. A lot of young players coming up in waves, comprising their new core. I'm betting they place their biggest bets on Campbell and Anthony...not sure how much they will slow play it with the other five position players. Think they will wait and see if they get repeats from Duran and Abreu. Edited April 1, 20251 yr by caulfield12
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