Kyyle23 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/04/18/chicago-white-sox-boston-red-sox-martin-perez-injury/ fun is winning and winning is fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 This doesn’t sound good. I guess they try to stretch out either Vasil or Bryce Wilson and bring up Shuster cuz he’s on the 40? Does this open the door for more Clevinger? Feels like this team is gonna get worse before it gets better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, Timmy U said: This doesn’t sound good. I guess they try to stretch out either Vasil or Bryce Wilson and bring up Shuster cuz he’s on the 40? Does this open the door for more Clevinger? Feels like this team is gonna get worse before it gets better. Dunn is the most deserving and waiving pretty much anyone from the bullpen won't even matter...Murfee and Eisert are obvious choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Please give the starts to Vasil over Schuster or Wilson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I don't think Shuster is stretched out. Wilson's MLB performance so far this year makes me not particularly interesting in giving him a shot in the rotation right now. Vasil, assuming he's stretched out, seems like the most logical choice and I think he should be in a position to have a little more than full rest for Perez's next start. FWIW, I had noticed Shuster's improved K rate in AAA. Not totally sure what's responsible, including just sample size fluctuation. But he has changed up his pitch mix a bit, reducing 4-seamer usage in favor more use of a sinker, which he barely used in MLB last season. Even in reduced use, his 4-seamer is getting hit hard in AAA as it did in MLB. But his changeup...wow. He's always been described as a guy with a good changeup but not much else, but his changeup is not getting hit at all in AAA. Per Statcast, it's generating an 81% whiff rate (!!!). I've never seen anything like that. Again per Statcast, it is dropping ~10 more inches than last year's changeup while keeping the same basic horizontal shape, velocity, and spin rate. Kind of interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, Jake said: I don't think Shuster is stretched out. Wilson's MLB performance so far this year makes me not particularly interesting in giving him a shot in the rotation right now. Vasil, assuming he's stretched out, seems like the most logical choice and I think he should be in a position to have a little more than full rest for Perez's next start. FWIW, I had noticed Shuster's improved K rate in AAA. Not totally sure what's responsible, including just sample size fluctuation. But he has changed up his pitch mix a bit, reducing 4-seamer usage in favor more use of a sinker, which he barely used in MLB last season. Even in reduced use, his 4-seamer is getting hit hard in AAA as it did in MLB. But his changeup...wow. He's always been described as a guy with a good changeup but not much else, but his changeup is not getting hit at all in AAA. Per Statcast, it's generating an 81% whiff rate (!!!). I've never seen anything like that. Again per Statcast, it is dropping ~10 more inches than last year's changeup while keeping the same basic horizontal shape, velocity, and spin rate. Kind of interesting. Your best bet would probably be to piggyback Vasil/Shuster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Your best bet would probably be to piggyback Vasil/Shuster? I personally probably wouldn't make it so structured since AFAIK Shuster isn't really stretched out to get to more than a couple innings, so you can just go by feel with however Vasil is doing. Wilson can be in that mix too/instead, depending on who you trust and whether the team is in the game when Vasil comes out. Plus the matchups I suppose, although at this point the bullpen is trending towards "oops all lefties" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 It would also be nice if local media thought to ask if the Sox were evaluating their teaching methods with this crazy amount of TJSs happening with this new staff. It feels like this many is a bit more than bad luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It would also be nice if local media thought to ask if the Sox were evaluating their teaching methods with this crazy amount of TJSs happening with this new staff. It feels like this many is a bit more than bad luck. The local media are not allowed to ask such things. The biggest chore is for the media to give them any attention unless it involves ridicule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Your best bet would probably be to piggyback Vasil/Shuster? That’s what I’d do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 As predicted, Perez to IL. Shuster up. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/04/martin-perez-headed-for-mri-with-forearm-soreness.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 With this move literally Owen White is the only guy on the 40 man who isn’t hurt, already in mlb, or completely ineffective. With all the Sox pitching depth coming into the season, it really looks like they’re gonna have 2 Rule 5 picks in the rotation. There really is no such thing as a pitching prospect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It would also be nice if local media thought to ask if the Sox were evaluating their teaching methods with this crazy amount of TJSs happening with this new staff. It feels like this many is a bit more than bad luck. I figured part of emulating the good organizations is shredding the elbow of every pitcher who comes through your system and just overcoming it through sheer numbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 15-day IL, Shuster up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Please give the starts to Vasil over Schuster or Wilson. Shuster up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I gotta ask what did we do to deserve this? Is this punishment? Are Sox fans that bad of sinners? Holy crap.... Sox, Rockies, Pirates baseballs ninth plain of hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Don't these things happen quite a bit in all of baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, JoshPR said: I gotta ask what did we do to deserve this? Is this punishment? Are Sox fans that bad of sinners? Holy crap.... Sox, Rockies, Pirates baseballs ninth plain of hell At least the Pirates have Skenes ONeil Cruz and Reynolds for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 In other injury news, Fraser Ellard threw off the mound to Korey Lee today back in Chicago. As for Josh Rojas, Venable: "He feels good, but not quite there yet to start a rehab assignment." — Scott Merkin (@scottmerkin) April 19, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Bryse Wilson, Mike Vasil, Jared Shuster and Tyler Gilbert all have starter's capabilities/experience to take Martin Perez's rotation slot while he's sidelined. Venable spoke as if they are still laying out a plan but have some flexibility there. — Scott Merkin (@scottmerkin) April 19, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) Hoped it would be Dunn or White just to try something new...but also have to acknowledge the most predictable/familiar result (Shuster) after last year was the likeliest in terms of roster mamagement. But we already know he's terrible. All he can do is eat garbage/junk/blowout innings. If they use Gilbert...we get 1-2 weeks of puff pieces about his no hitter with the DBacks, pretty sure it was his debut as well, or very close to that. Edited April 19 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 RHP Gus Varland is working his way back from a right forearm strain suffered with @KnightsBaseball at the start of the Minor League season. The hope is he'll be back by June/July. — Scott Merkin (@scottmerkin) April 19, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 White Sox -32 Rockies -58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Beast Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Dare they bring in someone like Michael Fulmer to eat innings? Or another scrub in his 30s that is unsigned? Edited April 20 by The Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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