8 minutes ago, Jake said:

An offense that sucks will make you really hate your relievers

Bad relievers will also make me hate them.

I've tried to do the dive on Yoendrys and I just can't see what made the Yankees, Dodgers, and Sox want to give this guy a paycheck (inning-ending strikeout notwithstanding)

7 minutes ago, Quin said:

Bad relievers will also make me hate them.

Exactly.  You can't blame the offense for a frickin grand slam.

8 minutes ago, SouthChicagoBorn said:

Exactly.  You can't blame the offense for a frickin grand slam.

Can’t we just hate most of them

Blown away by 91

9 minutes ago, Jake said:

I've tried to do the dive on Yoendrys and I just can't see what made the Yankees, Dodgers, and Sox want to give this guy a paycheck (inning-ending strikeout notwithstanding)

Following up on this, I guess it's the sweeper, Statcast says it has a lot more sideways movement than the average sweeper and it appears to be a new pitch this year (threw one last year with very different movement). Wonder if the Sox will try to get him to do the Steven Wilson approach and just throw it basically all the time. Despite all that movement on the sweeper, batters have done okay hitting it and they love hitting the rest of the stuff he throws

Elko not very hitterish

27	Chi Sox	3.34	2.67	2.00	3.90	2.88	3.13
28	Kansas City	3.31	1.67	2.00	3.23	3.41	4.46
29	Colorado	3.30	4.67	0.00	4.33	2.44	4.21
30	Pittsburgh	3.00	2.00	0.00	3.41	2.64	4.10     Runs per game, should fall to 29th after tonight

Here are the results on Cam Booser's three pitch types. Guess which one JRod flicked over the left field wall? (it's not a trick question)

9 minutes ago, Jake said:

Elko not very hitterish

Who has been this game ? Some hard hits balls weren't finding open fields .

I'm just elated we didn't get no hit

Gomez's pitches are being hit out a lot harder than they're coming into the plate, lol...

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10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Who has been this game ? Some hard hits balls weren't finding open fields .

Tonight specifically, Palacios and Vaughn have probably had the best looking trips to the plate. LouBob and Vargas each crushed one as well. My comment on Elko was more in general though, not that I care too much but I just don't generally feel like he looks like a guy who is going to do something positive when he's up there. Hope he gets rolling though and I appreciate the couple homers

Edited May 20, 2025May 20 by Jake

8 minutes ago, Jake said:

Tonight specifically, Palacios and Vaughn have probably had the best looking trips to the plate. LouBob and Vargas each crushed one as well. My comment on Elko was more in general though, not that I care too much but I just don't generally feel like he looks like a guy who is going to do something positive when he's up there. Hope he gets rolling though and I appreciate the couple homers

He is what he is.  If he played a full season, would probably bat .180 with 25 homers

They look like a Little League team out there

Nice of John to say Yoendrys has good stuff when I think that is very much a matter of debate

The boys could really use a rain out tomorrow.  

Williamson 2 hits with a combined exit velocity of about 85.

Matching/identical records with the 2024 White Sox at 14-34.

Then a W for 15-34 for last year's Sox, followed by FOURTEEN consecutive losses...15-48 SHOULD be a record they can better.

MAYBE.  JUST MAYBE.

 

 

26-73 ending to the season looks equally horrific, looking back on it all (although there was that brief window of hope when Grady came onboard, as well as those last 6 games and Burke pitching well his three starts down the stretch)

Edited May 20, 2025May 20 by caulfield12

I appreciate the drunken "Let's go White Sox!" chant in the background.

Regarding the Yoendrys sweeper, the one he's throwing tonight is a completely different pitch than the one I mentioned having good metrics earlier. 3 mph faster, literally 7 inches less sideways movement. Statcast has him throwing changeups as well, which he normally does not do and the ones he threw tonight are much faster and a lot more movement. I guess Katz has him just rebuilding the whole arsenal on the fly. Still appears to stink, though

15 minutes ago, Jake said:

Tonight specifically, Palacios and Vaughn have probably had the best looking trips to the plate. LouBob and Vargas each crushed one as well. My comment on Elko was more in general though, not that I care too much but I just don't generally feel like he looks like a guy who is going to do something positive when he's up there. Hope he gets rolling though and I appreciate the couple homers

So the 2 HRs in a week not withstanding.. you do know Elko hit one 101  too and hasn't K'd ?

Robert Jr.CF	3	0	0	0	0	0	.181	.580
PalaciosRF	3	0	1	0	0	1	.200	.579
VaughnDH	3	0	0	0	0	0	.181	.522     Is there a heart of the order on May 20th with WORSE stats in MLB?  hard to imagine

I think this guys problem is he's not trying to throw it hard enough.

Fun fact on Luis Castillo's slider: it has for most of his career been a very high-quality pitch for him despite the fact that, on average, it has 0 glove side movement. But between the low arm angle and massive run on his sinker, batters basically perceive it as a big breaker. It's a non-mythical gyroball. He's a very interesting pitcher to me.