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“The 78” is alive and well for the Sox, Bears are 'advancing' Hammond development

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On 8/10/2026 at 1:39 PM, bmags said:

I was just at T-mobile and it was so great. That said, boy it needs a lot of space, and it luckily fits over a similar rail area to the one we'd build on. Fortunately it's situated beautifully with the sound and the skyline. I was sitting I believe under that pepsi banner 10 or so rows down so you got to see both, I was astounded.

My impression is that 'hitting dingers in the river' sounds more fun in practice than reality. That part of the branch is not big. It would still provide a lot of fun as a transportation area (bringing water taxis alive) and mini river walk, but it's very scenic going west. Just focus on getting some of the lake/skyline and let the river be a fun place outside the park.

Good point about the "HRs in the river" idea. Such a thing would be secondary to other draws at that location - skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown, stadium district. If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there, the dingers in the river thing wouldn't be a deal breaker.

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On 8/11/2026 at 4:58 PM, 77 Hitmen said:

Good point about the "HRs in the river" idea. Such a thing would be secondary to other draws at that location - skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown, stadium district. If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there, the dingers in the river thing wouldn't be a deal breaker.

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

Edited by tray

1 hour ago, tray said:

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

It would be like losing a big fat carp on your fishing line in the Des Plaines River. Disappointing at first, but you would realize you couldn’t have eaten it anyways so it would have been all for show. 🤣

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1 hour ago, tray said:

Do you know how many HRs have been hit in McCovey cove at Oracle this season? One. Anyway, the Chicago River is not a Bay and looks nothing like it. Instead it is a silty murky mostly stagnant canal that periodically gets controlled sewage overflow. The Canal is host to invasive species. Wrigley does fine without "skyline view, riverwalk/water taxis, proximity to downtown." Sox need a winning team, not a new stadium that is more inconvenient for many fans to get to.

"If they really do have the money and land to put in a retractable roof on a stadium there"

Not sure how any baseball stadium let alone a retractable dome (700 ft diam. just for the footprint) would fit within the latest approved TIF plan. (i.e., between 14th st. and 15th st. and between the LaSalle St. extension and Wells.) Money? I think Ishbia family wealth (Mat and Justin) is largely contingent on United Wholesale Mortgage, which hasn't been doing well.

Anyway 77.. I am focused on this season and this team, but I admit to being amused by your imagination.

UWMC is 85-90% Mat

The two brothers have also made over $6 billion alone in cash dividends that are separate from tumbling share prices over the last five years.

Justin is much smarter than his brother.

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