16 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I'm told they are inviting select season ticket holders to the focus groups. I've been a season ticket holder since 1991. Perhaps they just forgot to invite me.

I heard they went out to those who have had season tickets since 1990. Looks like you just missed the cut, sorry.

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by DoUEvenShift

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

23 minutes ago, tray said:

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

If you can't see the fact that these two are 100% working together on a common goal, it's because you do not want to see it. Jerry Reinsdorf is the one baseball in Chicago owner that has come the closest to actually moving the Chicago White Sox, and no one else. He didn't give a s%*# about 35th and Shield when he looked to move to Addison, when he looked to move to Florida, and the same hold true today. It means nothing to him. Quit trying to blame it on the new guy, who is continuing Jerry's work of the last 4 decades.

12 minutes ago, tray said:

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

It would be nice, but Jerry isn't going to spend no matter what you call him.

Reinsdorf decided he wanted a total monopoly over the Sox neighborhood...from the very beginning.

Or parking lots.

The reason those entertainment districts work in places like Atlanta or Wrigleyville is you have at least 20-35% investment from the private sector.

There's not going to be legitimate private interest in these type of investments without a reasonable expectation of profitability.

Sox are only a year or two removed from having the lowest net revenues in all of MLB...behind Miami Oakland and TB even.

Ishbia Brothers also reported to be only 40% owners of the team ATM...they don't possess the controlling shares either, so what exactly are they supposed to do here???

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by caulfield12

57 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It would be nice, but Jerry isn't going to spend no matter what you call him.

WestEddy will argue 2006-2010, Adam Dunn, Cabrera/Robertson/Samardzija and then 2021-23.

Edited 19 hours ago19 hr by caulfield12

1 hour ago, tray said:

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

This guy is trolling us...right?

1 hour ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

The only way to find out is to not respond, sadly, which takes away from the entertainment.

21 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I'm told they are inviting select season ticket holders to the focus groups. I've been a season ticket holder since 1991. Perhaps they just forgot to invite me.

Perhaps they're looking for people a bit more youthful (no offense).

Not even Thanos Musk Zuck Bezos Ricketts Soros Bloomberg Thiel Ellisons can stop the Ishbias!!!

They are simultaneously invincible omniscient and irrepressible.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by caulfield12

14 hours ago, tray said:

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

Unfortunately, Jerry hasn’t sold the team yet so he is still responsible for the payroll this offseason.

13 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

Yes

2 hours ago, ron883 said:

Yes

Takes one to know one 😉

15 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

At first, I was sure he was just angry and bitter and perhaps scared because he really really really doesn't want the Sox to move to the South Loop and he's lashing out at Ishbia because, unlike Jerry, he actually has the wealth to make this happen.

But, I'm coming around to the idea that he's indeed just trolling us. I mean, much of the stuff he's spouting is so comically over the top and detached from facts that I think @ron883 is right....he's just playing us. And to be clear, fans can legitimately have the opinion that the Sox should stay at Rate Field or at least at the current site permanently and there are pros and cons to each option. But that's not what's going on here. It's just one angry gaslighting post after another with nothing insightful being said whatsoever. So, I'm leaning toward the "he's a troll" camp now.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by 77 Hitmen