caulfield12 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: For once he is being honest, and correct. Five years to competitiveness in the AL Central is just ridiculous. The Tigers/Twins spending in the $145-147 million range is not the AL/NL West or East by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Only two issues. One he wants to win. Two his checks don't bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) Fox 32 talking heads discuss what's next for the Sox after the Fire stadium and Ishbia announcement last week: https://www.fox32chicago.com/video/1655033 EDIT: maybe this should have gone into the Fire/78 thread instead. Edited June 9 by 77 Hitmen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 On 6/7/2025 at 7:59 PM, caulfield12 said: Five years to competitiveness in the AL Central is just ridiculous. The Tigers/Twins spending in the $145-147 million range is not the AL/NL West or East by a long shot. With the lack of monetary resources that JR provides the only way to have a consistent competitive team is through the draft an development. This takes time. They could try to shortcut it like Hahn did. He did field a competitive team that made the playoffs. However once those players either got hurt or became ineffective there were no other players behind them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: With the lack of monetary resources that JR provides the only way to have a consistent competitive team is through the draft an development. This takes time. They could try to shortcut it like Hahn did. He did field a competitive team that made the playoffs. However once those players either got hurt or became ineffective there were no other players behind them. I'd like to know when the five year timeline began... is Getz saying from last season, or did it start in his mind this season. Five years seems long to me but much will depend on when Ishbia takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: I'd like to know when the five year timeline began... is Getz saying from last season, or did it start in his mind this season. Five years seems long to me but much will depend on when Ishbia takes over. I would go with when he started acquiring players and reshaping the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, ptatc said: I would go with when he started acquiring players and reshaping the organization. Certainly not when he was Director of Player Development or Assistant GM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 35 minutes ago, champagne030 said: Certainly not when he was Director of Player Development or Assistant GM. Doesn't sound like he had much control of players then. He has been acquiring a very different type of player. Either that or he learned what wasn't working. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, champagne030 said: Certainly not when he was Director of Player Development or Assistant GM. Here's another entire article from 2020 touting the organization's advances in data, analytics, and biomechanical work, and all of the hires that Getz (Using "I", not "we", or "they") was making then. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1566148/2020/01/28/what-the-white-soxs-next-stage-of-player-development-looks-like/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's another entire article from 2020 touting the organization's advances in data, analytics, and biomechanical work, and all of the hires that Getz (Using "I", not "we", or "they") was making then. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1566148/2020/01/28/what-the-white-soxs-next-stage-of-player-development-looks-like/ That's gold. This one made me laugh the most. • Getz indicated Ben Hansen’s full-time role with the White Sox as a senior biomechanical engineer is an upgrade over his previous work with the club, as the team contracted with him when he was still chief technology officer with Motus Global. They view Hansen’s work as a route to both injury prevention and performance improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 8 minutes ago, champagne030 said: That's gold. This one made me laugh the most. • Getz indicated Ben Hansen’s full-time role with the White Sox as a senior biomechanical engineer is an upgrade over his previous work with the club, as the team contracted with him when he was still chief technology officer with Motus Global. They view Hansen’s work as a route to both injury prevention and performance improvement. Six pitchers with TJS this season alone, potentially two more. So much for injury prevention eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Six pitchers with TJS this season alone, potentially two more. So much for injury prevention eh? Dodgers have had 14 pitching injuries... And a LOT more depth, although things are getting a little bit chaotic at the major league level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 22 minutes ago, champagne030 said: That's gold. This one made me laugh the most. • Getz indicated Ben Hansen’s full-time role with the White Sox as a senior biomechanical engineer is an upgrade over his previous work with the club, as the team contracted with him when he was still chief technology officer with Motus Global. They view Hansen’s work as a route to both injury prevention and performance improvement. Whoopsies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 17 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Dodgers have had 14 pitching injuries... And a LOT more depth, although things are getting a little bit chaotic at the major league level. Dodgers can afford for it to happen to them. At the deadline they'll just go out and trade for two more then sign three more in the off season. The Sox can't or won't take that approach so keeping their players healthy takes on even more urgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Ben Hansen is currently the Mets' Sr. Director Performance Technology and Baseball Products, so tee-hee, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Here's another entire article from 2020 touting the organization's advances in data, analytics, and biomechanical work, and all of the hires that Getz (Using "I", not "we", or "they") was making then. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1566148/2020/01/28/what-the-white-soxs-next-stage-of-player-development-looks-like/ And where was the biommechics facilty to test the data? Theory is one thing, practical apocation is another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 will the legend TLR be shown the door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 11 hours ago, kitekrazy said: will the legend TLR be shown the door? lol what does it matter? He isn’t doing anything actually meaningful he just shows up places and tells people who he is and watches baseball just like he did when he managed a few years ago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Jon Greenberg of The Athletic discusses Isbhia deal to buy the Sox: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/white-sox-ownership-deal-could-make-the-team-a-completely-different-franchise/3765009/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 13 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: lol what does it matter? He isn’t doing anything actually meaningful he just shows up places and tells people who he is and watches baseball just like he did when he managed a few years ago I wish I could believe that but I don't. He's the 2nd guy in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I wish I could believe that but I don't. He's the 2nd guy in charge There is no proof of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: There is no proof of that. I don't agree. He's been touring the farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) Not sure how much TLR is doing these days. He is looking very old and frail after seeing him in a picture at a Sox game with Dombrowski. Edited June 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 19 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I wish I could believe that but I don't. He's the 2nd guy in charge Honestly with how little things changed from Hahn to Getz, it makes a ton of sense. Same weird line ups, same playing DFAs in key positions until the day they are released, over dependence on washed up vets instead of kids, blocking kids, etc. Someone like Tony and/or Jerry still sticking their nose in to "help" would check out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said: Jon Greenberg of The Athletic discusses Isbhia deal to buy the Sox: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/white-sox-ownership-deal-could-make-the-team-a-completely-different-franchise/3765009/ There are some here that really need to read this story and stop with the "Sox are moving to Nashville..." nonsense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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