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11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Except that we all know that contract was terrible money a few months into his first season as a member of the Sox. 

He really had a bad wrist his first year.

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10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Teel a beast!

Enjoy the Teel bandwagon. As soon as he ties a couple of 0-4's together, you'll be jumping off and bragging you always knew he was garbage.

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8 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I step way for like, a minute, and suddenly this game is blown wide open. The Sox definitely play better when I'm not watching.

And then you come back, and Gilbert starts clogging up the bases. 

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I love that Verlander was getting hit hard but gave up 1 run on a sac fly, and 2 nobodies come in and give up 4 runs. This was the inning to watch apparently lol

 

9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

And then you come back, and Gilbert starts clogging up the bases. 

inevitably.....I think my stream is behind, I thought you were speculating.

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11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Enjoy the Teel bandwagon. As soon as he ties a couple of 0-4's together, you'll be jumping off and bragging you always knew he was garbage.

Nah, he’s actually good.  Vargas, not a believer.  You declared victory a bit too soon on him.  Slater too.

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9 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Venable manages like these are all ST games. Why is Gilbert pitching in a game with the lead in the 8th inning?

Because Steven Wilson's the last bullpen arm available, and they only want him to throw one inning?

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8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Nah, he’s actually good.  Vargas, not a believer.  You declared victory a bit too soon on him.  Slater too.

Whatever. You'll be back on the Vargas bandwagon after the next 3 game hitting streak and acting like he's your boy-eee. 

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2 hours ago, nrockway said:

I think it would be shortsighted. What, they don't wanna pay his contract next year? They tendered Vaughn whose ceiling is only marginally better than Robert's floor. For less money, sure, but who else are they paying next season? You can't carry a $20mil contract in the hopes that he performs like the $30mil player (or whatever) he has shown he can be? He isn't a "salary dump" like Benintendi is (Benny might actually be tradable next year though if he can keep up his 'ok' play). It isn't a "cut your losses" situation IMO, I just think we're not going to get anything for him at the moment, we might get something back in the offseason if he can return to form, and if he ends up somewhere in between, he's still a good player and a valuable contributor at a defense-first position for the remainder of his contract. If he ends up as a .650 OPS player and retains his defense and base stealing, that's still a good player, just maybe not the 5-tool superstar we might've hoped Robert would be. It would be a shame to trade him for a lotto ticket and he accumulates 30 WAR over his next contract for a different team.

Feel like they should've traded him a long time ago and now we're just stuck with him. He's still an elite defensive center fielder which is a rare thing to find; if he can even hit like Michael A, that's probably good for 3 WAR. Who are we going to replace him with? Brooks can't play center field. As far as I can tell, there isn't a single one in the system. Maybe one of these shortstops can play the position. If they move on from Robert, I'd hope they get a lefty bat for CF though.

 

I was thinking about Cristian Pache the other day...I thought that guy was gonna be so good. If we're looking at Syndegaard, I'd look at him too lol.

Does it even matter? They'll lose 100 games again next year anyway and JR with the labor impasse coming up isn't going to be spending money this off season. 

There is absolutely no way JR will approve picking up his 20 million dollar offer for next year.

None, nada, nyet. 

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9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Because Steven Wilson's the last bullpen arm available, and they only want him to throw one inning?

Vasil coming in now. So, this statement is not true.

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10 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Whatever. You'll be back on the Vargas bandwagon after the next 3 game hitting streak and acting like he's your boy-eee. 

Just stop.  He was being positive, it was a good outcome.  There is no need for this 

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11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Whatever. You'll be back on the Vargas bandwagon after the next 3 game hitting streak and acting like he's your boy-eee. 

I never made one post saying Vargas was a favorite of mine.  That much should be obvious.  Obviously, the Sox are a better team if he can hit but .229 / .722 isn’t all that promising.  But it’s still way better than he was before.

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8 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Does it even matter? They'll lose 100 games again next year anyway and JR with the labor impasse coming up isn't going to be spending money this off season. 

There is absolutely no way JR will approve picking up his 20 million dollar offer for next year.

None, nada, nyet. 

The correct answer is that there is absolutely no way JR should approve picking up a $20M contract for Robert's numbers over the last 2 years. That amount of money could actually get them a tweener coming off an off year, looking for a show-me deal to rehab his value. 

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