July 14, 2025Jul 14 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: The buzzword I am already done with is "make up". Apparently everyone we draft is a high "make up" guy. Drafting good people is great and all, but we need actual baseball tools that translate.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 13 minutes ago, DirtySox said: So far the Sox have yet to punt a pick. Wonder if we are approaching that point. I wonder if we have gone less over-slot than we've thought. Maybe round 1 was at slot and 2 a little over, then 3 a little under?
July 14, 2025Jul 14 So far some interesting draft profiles. Definitely seems different than past drafts. I'm sure some punting is coming up, but if they can grab some guys with interesting/loud tools without a lot of success with those picks this will be a really good draft.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author 11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I wonder if we have gone less over-slot than we've thought. Maybe round 1 was at slot and 2 a little over, then 3 a little under? Yea it's hard to tell. Maybe you are saving a bit of money on Lodise, Davis, and Shelton? But also how much is Hodge seeking? We will know with the next 4 selections. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 23 minutes ago, ptatc said: I never said only the players. You said only management. You dont consider a player motivation as the other. Again with the has to only be one or the other view point on everything. It is completely overrated, and actually part of coaching. You don't always get to pick your most talented players, and being able to get the most out of them is quite literally your job. And when a group that was succeeding, almost all fails at once, that is a huge red flag that despite telling us "motivation" was the problem, the problem was much different.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 23 minutes ago, DirtySox said: So far the Sox have yet to punt a pick. Wonder if we are approaching that point. They have to be, and with good reason.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 21 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Drafting good people is great and all, but we need actual baseball tools that translate. Otherwise you end up with a 121 loss team. I am so glad they work really, really hard at being bad though.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author Here's Doyle's scouting report on the Fauske and Hodge. Quote 44 C/OF Jaden Fauske Nazareth Academy HOMETOWN: Willowbrook, Illinois HEIGHT: 6-3 WEIGHT: 210 BAT/THROW: L-R CARRYING TOOL: Hit: 55 COLLEGE COMMITMENT: LSU Fauske has been one of the more impressive performers on the tournament and showcase scene going back to his sophomore year. He's played a multitude of positions including shortstop and third base as well as getting considerable run behind the plate at times. Scouts like him in the outfield eventually where his speed and arm strength look like a slightly more comfortable fit. He's got a super-physical frame with tons of strength in his legs and broad, squared off shoulders. Fauske fills out a uniform and looks the part of the premium prospect he is. Fauske's profile is carried by the bat and a hit tool that always seems to show up. Fauske has a quiet setup with rhythm in his hands and few wasted movements. There's some waggle in his bat that helps his triggers. Fauske is consistently on time and shows off a heavy barrel with impact to both gaps. He never chases and makes sound swing decisions against premium arms. It'll eventually be 'plus' raw power and he's already flashing solid average game power with feel for launch. He doesn't have to force the issue to get into loft. Fauske is an above average runner. It's solid average arm strength. His tools will be tested behind the plate, but pitchers trust his ability to keep the ball in front of him as he's shown well in terms of smothering pitches in the dirt. Outfield would not be an unfavorable outcome. Quote 158 C/2B Landon Hodge Crespi Carmelite HOMETOWN: Agua Dulce, California HEIGHT: 6-2 WEIGHT: 195 BAT/THROW: L-R COLLEGE COMMITMENT: LSU Hodge stands out for his hitterish ways and use of the whole field offensively. Hodge is an aggressive hitter who isn't afraid to expand the zone in an effort to put the game in motion. He's handled fastballs and changeups well to this point in his amateur career, though he's swung through spin a bit more than scouts would like to see at this stage. The tools are interesting though. He's got a quiet demeanor at the plate with rhythmic triggers and boasts batting average sessions players twice his age would like to achieve. He hardly ever sells out for power in pre-game work, instead electing to stay inside the baseball and work line-to-line. Hodge has a quick arm behind the plate, and features some of the tools necessary to catch long-term, though scouts are split on whether he ends up there, or moves to second base or even left field moving forward. The upside at the plate stands out here, and it in-game production and metrics continue to improve, he could go off the board early. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 33 minutes ago, DirtySox said: That's not how this works. That's not how this has worked for years. These prep players have leverage. They have college commitments they can honor. They can bet on themselves to make more money by going to school. NIL now factors into the equation as well. They have a number they will forgo all of this for, and it's up to the teams to deem if they want to pay that or go another route with another player. Exactly. If they pay up, they are objectively reaching. In the team's mind it would be like "well he was #20 on our board, we draft him at #43 and pay some overslot, we still got a bargain." And that's fine, if that team is better than the consensus at talent evaluation. But this is the 121 loss team that thinks it's better than the nom....... Maybe, I don't know that he's particularly over slot anyway. He's a good pick. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by GreenSox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author Senior. Not on the BA top 500. There is some savings. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author Doyle has him at 287 though. Quote 287 1B/3B Anthony DePino Rhode Island HOMETOWN: Madison, Connecticut HEIGHT: 5-11 WEIGHT: 218 BAT/THROW: R-R A four-year starter at Rhode Island, DePino has put it all together in 2025 as a senior. The raw power carries the profile, but DePino is getting to it frequently. He's got heavy hands and drops a heavy barrel through the zone flashing plus bat speed. DePino consistently posts exit velocities north of 110 mph and has been an extra-base hit machine in 2025. The hit tool has holes and DePino will strike out more than you'd like, especially from an A10 hitter. DePino has started at third base his entire career at Rhode Island and projects a fringe-average glove at the hot corner at the next level. He's a bit heavy-footed and his lateral mobility is limited, but the arm strength and hands do work on the dirt. DePino is a below-average runner. DePino is a potential day three metric-darling pick who will have to slug his way through minor league baseball. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 9 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Exactly. If they pay up, they are objectively reaching. In the team's mind it would be like "well he was #20 on our board, we draft him at #43 and pay some overslot, we still got a bargain." And that's fine, if that team is better than the consensus at talent evaluation. But this is the 121 loss team that thinks it's better than the nom....... It isn't that simple. If you go over with someone, which is typically the high school picks, you have to go under with others, or you lose a future draft pick. So while you might over pick at one slot, you then have to under pick at another (or more) to make up for it. If you spend a million over slot to pick the BPA up front, you have to save that million dollars by NOT taking BPA at subsequent slots.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 9 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Senior. Not on the BA top 500. There is some savings. Huge offensive numbers
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author Looks like Doyle is pretty high on Colby Shelton. Had him ranked 47th. Quote 47 SS Colby Shelton Florida HOMETOWN: Litha, Florida HEIGHT: 6-0 WEIGHT: 185 BAT/THROW: L-R CARRYING TOOL: Power: 55 Arm: 55 Shelton has a quiet swing from the left side with very little moving parts and a line-drive approach. He's a bigger-bodied infielder with bat speed in the tank, but he generally saves it for BP and takes a more hitterish approach in game. Shelton will flash plus bat speed and has peaked north of 114 mph this season. His average exit velocity in 2025 sat north of 92.5 mph; an extremely high mark for a middle infielder. The hit tool is aggressive with heavier swing rates and a willingness to expand the zone. That said, his ability to cover pitches off the plate is better than average. Shelton is going to hit and he's going to slug. Getting the ball in the air and lifting it to the pull-side would certainly help improve his overall offensive production and help him profile more into the middle of a lineup. An average runner with an above average arm, Shelton's range may force him to second base or third base at the next level, though like most prospects, his value will be dictated by how much he hits. He was a 20th round pick by the Nationals in 2024 but went unsigned as a draft-eligible sophomore. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Author Doyle on Gabe Davis. Quote 147 RHP Gabe Davis Oklahoma State HOMETOWN: Midwest City, Oklahoma HEIGHT: 6-9 WEIGHT: 225 BAT/THROW: R-R CARRYING TOOL: Fastball: 55 Slider: 55 At 6-foot-8, Davis towers over the opposing hitters. The narrative at this stage is a strong fastball with serious steep angle up to 100 from a unique, wide slot. Davis' fastball has a history of missing bats and inducing extreme chase rates, primarily because of the velocity and how unprecedented a look it is for hitters. He'll need to clean up the command and start pounding the zone with more authority, but the upside here is pretty obvious. Davis throws a firm cutter/slider up to 91 mph, though it's usually in the 85-87 bucket. It's mostly a gyro spinner providing some late depth coming off the fastball tunnel, but it's been highly-effective neutralizing righty bats. There's also a bigger sweeping slider that Davis relies on to miss bats late in counts. A deliberate worker with a slower tempo, Davis throws enough strikes to start at the next level. He possesses elite extension down the mound and should generate value from his entire arsenal in due part because of it. Player development at the next level will likely work hard to unlock some of the stiffness in his hips and arm action. That elite velocity could conceivably come even easier to Davis with a few biomechanical adjustments. He's a high-floor starting pitcher prospect that will have suitors on day one. The size, strength, strikes, and velocity will get him drafted early. Edited July 14, 2025Jul 14 by DirtySox
July 14, 2025Jul 14 42 minutes ago, ptatc said: Sure, blame everyone but the players themselves. They have no responsibility in their own work ethic or off season work. Unlike your complete refusal to lay any blame at the disfunctional org? Yes, its all the players' fault. Forcing TLR on a young up & coming team had nothing to do with it...
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Did Jacob Parker get picked? I thought the Sox were interested in him too not just his brother
July 14, 2025Jul 14 Sox having a solid draft thus far. No low ceiling starters or college hitters with limited power profiles that are typical in this range. Shelton is an interesting profile and is great value for round 6.
July 14, 2025Jul 14 29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It isn't that simple. If you go over with someone, which is typically the high school picks, you have to go under with others, or you lose a future draft pick. So while you might over pick at one slot, you then have to under pick at another (or more) to make up for it. If you spend a million over slot to pick the BPA up front, you have to save that million dollars by NOT taking BPA at subsequent slots. If they offer slot and the player refuses don't they lose the pool money but retain teh pick next year? Thus if Fauske goes to college , they lose his pool money but get a comparable pick next year. Am I misunderstanding something?
July 14, 2025Jul 14 10 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: If they offer slot and the player refuses don't they lose the pool money but retain teh pick next year? Thus if Fauske goes to college , they lose his pool money but get a comparable pick next year. Am I misunderstanding something? You lose the slot money that year, as well as a year of development and the player, which means you have one less slot to work with on your player allotment. Not all player picks get replaced, not sure what that looks like now.
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