11 hours ago, Quin said:

Sorry, the theory that was jettisoned was that greg " meant best ever for such late 1st round pick who had a series of ups and downs that had nearly everyone diubting him and quite a few calling him a bust /bum"

As you can see, it's just Montgomery > Frank.

You can go through my comment history and see that while I never tapped out on Colson I was down on him hard. If he turns into a Top 20 hitter all time, then sure. But like Cali pointed out, Frank raked from day 1.

I mean for god's sake, greg is using "BOOM" as an argument against Frank Thomas.

I also realize that by letting myself get pulled into this I've satisfied the feeding of the troll.

To redirect, it is interesting looking at Monty as a #22 pick, compared to other #22s. I got a bit down on him this spring and thought that if he achieved something along the lines of a couple other #22's, Kolton Wong and Jayson Werth, he'd amass 14-17 bWAR in his 6-7 years of team control. At that time, I thought that would be phenomenal.

Expecting him to hit the highs of Craig Biggio (23 bWAR) or Raffy Palmiero (27 bWAR) would mean expecting him to be on track for a Hall-of-Fame career. Chet Lemon also put up around 25 bWAR in his first 6+ seasons. 

The league's going to adjust to him, he'll have some sort of sophomore slump along the way, but I'm thinking that he looks like his glove and power could buoy him along as an average to moderately above average SS/3B (2-3 bWAR, annually). But if he hits like this, omg. 

Edited August 11, 2025Aug 11 by WestEddy

1 hour ago, Quin said:

Sorry, the theory that was jettisoned was that greg " meant best ever for such late 1st round pick who had a series of ups and downs that had nearly everyone diubting him and quite a few calling him a bust /bum"

As you can see, it's just Montgomery > Frank.

You can go through my comment history and see that while I never tapped out on Colson I was down on him hard. If he turns into a Top 20 hitter all time, then sure. But like Cali pointed out, Frank raked from day 1.

I mean for god's sake, greg is using "BOOM" as an argument against Frank Thomas.

I also realize that by letting myself get pulled into this I've satisfied the feeding of the troll.

TOO many flares to RF.

Too much topspin on his tomahawk swings.. resulting in 75-100 fewer career homers.

Poor defensively.

Terrible thrower...especially to second or almost never third.

Couldn't bunt.

Not a team player, stats first.

Not clutch in the post season.

Poor personal finance history until the last 10-15 years or so.

Not as exciting as Auburn teammate Bo Jackson.

Failed at being an NFL tight end.

Best hitter for the first 7-8 years of his career (without PEDs) than all but those guys like Ruth Gehrig etc.

Seems Montgomery comes out on top.

Edited August 11, 2025Aug 11 by caulfield12

Caulfield are you ok

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I've never seen Luis this ecstatic. They need to work on the handshake. Luckily they'll have the next decade (alongside multiple World Series appearances and MVP awards) to figure it out.

But seriously, what if these two combined for, like, 12 WAR next season? Conceivable. 

18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

TOO many flares to RF.

Too much topspin on his tomahawk swings.. resulting in 75-100 fewer career homers.

Poor defensively.

Terrible thrower...especially to second or almost never third.

Couldn't bunt.

Not a team player, stats first.

Not clutch in the post season.

Poor personal finance history until the last 10-15 years or so.

Not as exciting as Auburn teammate Bo Jackson.

Failed at being an NFL tight end.

Best hitter for the first 7-8 years of his career (without PEDs) than all but those guys like Ruth Gehrig etc.

Seems Montgomery comes out on top.

you're forgetting one: not a very good salesman of male enhancement products...or whatever nugenix is. testosterone apparently. 

5 hours ago, champagne030 said:

Only need to go 36-7 to get to .500!  Start a new thread.

You are not a believer in Colson? It's OK to get excited about something involving the White Sox when deserved IMO.

3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Maybe greg just meant best ever for such late 1st round pick who had a series of ups and downs that had nearly everyone diubting him and quite a few calling him a bust /bum.

Frank Thomas did nothing but hit from the time he was drafted to the day he retired.Pretty damn good #7 1st round pick ! 

I love Frank Thomas. All I was trying to say is our lowly White Sox, an embarrassment to those who pay attention any more, finally have a Caitlin Clark, a Connor Bedard, a Bobby Witt for those who think I love the Royals, a guy like the Cubs player with the 3 names. That's all I was trying to say. I worship MJ and Frank both in a baseball sense of the word. Not guaranteeing anything except you watch Colson rake and try to tell me he doesn't have perfect hitting form.

11 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

One thing going for Mead is he came up through the Rays organization, when they bring up a guy he’s had had good minor league training. Mead with the bat should get better because he never had a long run with the Rays, unfortunately when Vargas comes back he’s going to be in the same situation.

also honey

6 hours ago, nrockway said:

you're forgetting one: not a very good salesman of male enhancement products...or whatever nugenix is. testosterone apparently. 

But everyone remembers the tagline...

4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

But everyone remembers the tagline...

"you're gonna like the way you like, I guarantee it" 

wait, maybe that was the men's wearhouse.

"she's gonna like the way your dick works, I guarantee it" closer

Edited August 11, 2025Aug 11 by nrockway

Something about "and the ladies will love it too" at the end   wink wink

18 hours ago, Quin said:

Sorry, the theory that was jettisoned was that greg " meant best ever for such late 1st round pick who had a series of ups and downs that had nearly everyone diubting him and quite a few calling him a bust /bum"

As you can see, it's just Montgomery > Frank.

You can go through my comment history and see that while I never tapped out on Colson I was down on him hard. If he turns into a Top 20 hitter all time, then sure. But like Cali pointed out, Frank raked from day 1.

I mean for god's sake, greg is using "BOOM" as an argument against Frank Thomas.

I also realize that by letting myself get pulled into this I've satisfied the feeding of the troll.

You got pwned by greg. He's still got it. 

On 8/10/2025 at 11:18 AM, The Mighty Mite said:

Baldwin with another error in left field but no damage, that kid needs to work on some things.

Don't forget you need to start todays game thread since the Sox won. 

4 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Don't forget you need to start todays game thread since the Sox won. 

Didn’t know that.

4 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Didn’t know that.

Pretty rare to have a repeat the last couple years so totally understandable 

1 minute ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Pretty rare to have a repeat the last couple years so totally understandable 

I’ll be happy if I have to do this for a week or 10 days.