14 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Good riddance. 

True, but don’t forget — Getz traded these two young pitchers for them.

Christian Mena

Luis Rodriguez

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16 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Good riddance. 

Getz sucks so much at trading

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Getz sucks so much at trading

Who needs young pitching when you barely have a rotation and a mediocre bullpen?

13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

True, but don’t forget — Getz traded these two young pitchers for them.

Christian Mena

Luis Rodriguez

Weird. Neither of those guys would have helped the bullpen in the last two years. And if Mena has his current shoulder woes with the White Sox, you and Liptak would be dancing around and high fiving each other over how another White Sox player was injured. 

59 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Weird. Neither of those guys would have helped the bullpen in the last two years. And if Mena has his current shoulder woes with the White Sox, you and Liptak would be dancing around and high fiving each other over how another White Sox player was injured. 

Weird.  I never mentioned helping the bullpen the last two years.  I thought it was fairly obvious by my previous post about the current state of the rotation and bullpen that I was talking about going forward.

No one was saving Getz’s 101-223 White Sox over the last two seasons.  These two failed trades that Getz signed off on definitely didn’t help things either.

Edited October 15, 2025Oct 15 by WhiteSox2023

43 minutes ago, fathom said:

Getz sucks so much at trading

When you suck at player evaluation that is inevitable

52 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

I am a bit surprised or curious about this.   All of the Sox young players on the major league roster who actually have talent are infielders.   And yet they keep the infield org guys like Mead around; and Cowles too, although I'm not sure what the theory of Cowles is.

On the OF side, they have no one besides Baldwin once the current Sox starting OF (Benintendi, Tauchman, Robert) are moved.*  Lee played some OF.  Maybe some other guys will start shagging out there.  

Fletcher wasn't that bad anyway.  The worst of the org bunch by a mile is Mead.

*If those 3 aren't moved by July 31, then Getz darn well better be.

1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

Hopefully we stop trading really young players for older players really damned soon.  There is plenty of trash floating in the ocean to fill the roster with, we don't need to trade our youngest players to do it.

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

True, but don’t forget — Getz traded these two young pitchers for them.

Christian Mena

Luis Rodriguez

And yet this somehow isn't the worst one.

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

True, but don’t forget — Getz traded these two young pitchers for them.

Christian Mena

Luis Rodriguez

Oh I'm not forgetting this just that from those two guys perspective it is no big loss. 

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Weird. Neither of those guys would have helped the bullpen in the last two years. And if Mena has his current shoulder woes with the White Sox, you and Liptak would be dancing around and high fiving each other over how another White Sox player was injured. 

You've now really gone over the deep end haven't you? 🤡

 

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

Weird. Neither of those guys would have helped the bullpen in the last two years. And if Mena has his current shoulder woes with the White Sox, you and Liptak would be dancing around and high fiving each other over how another White Sox player was injured. 

 

2 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Hyperbole personified. Pretending to laugh, golf clap or being a mini-me hasn't disproven a thing I've written. 

Ironic how close these two posts were to each other.

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

I am a bit surprised or curious about this.   All of the Sox young players on the major league roster who actually have talent are infielders.   And yet they keep the infield org guys like Mead around; and Cowles too, although I'm not sure what the theory of Cowles is.

On the OF side, they have no one besides Baldwin once the current Sox starting OF (Benintendi, Tauchman, Robert) are moved.*  Lee played some OF.  Maybe some other guys will start shagging out there.  

Fletcher wasn't that bad anyway.  The worst of the org bunch by a mile is Mead.

*If those 3 aren't moved by July 31, then Getz darn well better be.

Mead will likely be given some more time, just like Fletcher and Julks.  Even though it was Houser and not a huge trade chip, Getz can’t admit that he got nothing of value back for him this soon.

You make good points about primary positions mattering but this is an organization that is willing to move many of its players around all over defensively, whether it’s a good or bad idea.

3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

I am a bit surprised or curious about this.   All of the Sox young players on the major league roster who actually have talent are infielders.   And yet they keep the infield org guys like Mead around; and Cowles too, although I'm not sure what the theory of Cowles is.

On the OF side, they have no one besides Baldwin once the current Sox starting OF (Benintendi, Tauchman, Robert) are moved.*  Lee played some OF.  Maybe some other guys will start shagging out there.  

Fletcher wasn't that bad anyway.  The worst of the org bunch by a mile is Mead.

*If those 3 aren't moved by July 31, then Getz darn well better be.

Ramos was rumored to be moving to the outfield.

Then Vargas has some experience out there as well.

Maybe think outside the box and try Japan or Korea?

 

https://risingapple.com/ny-mets-3-japanese-stars-2026

Okamoto for 1B/DH is an obvious one...but likely to a contender like the Red Sox, who already have Yoshida.

Mets if Alonso departs.

 

Tatsuya Imai  SP

"Tatsuya Imai is looking to get posted by the Seibu Lions and make the jump to MLB, bringing a right-handed arm that could be exactly what the Mets are searching for. At 27, he just completed the best season of his eight-year NPB career, posting a 1.92 ERA, a 0.89 WHIP, and 178 strikeouts in 163.2 innings. His performance underlines both dominance and durability, showing he can handle a full workload while keeping hitters off balance with his mid- to high-90s fastball and a mix of slider, splitter, and changeup."

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Thought Fletcher was fine for a fourth outfielder, maybe even get a chance to start in right over Tauchman and keep the spot warm for Braden. He played OK in Charlotte and in limited time for Chicago last season. Adequate defender. Not exactly a worldbeater, but probly should've gotten a lot more play than MAT.

Hopefully they change some players' positions and get a real free agent. Need real guys behind Robert and Tauchman who you almost expect to be injured. 

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

Thought Fletcher was fine for a fourth outfielder, maybe even get a chance to start in right over Tauchman and keep the spot warm for Braden. He played OK in Charlotte and in limited time for Chicago last season. Adequate defender. Not exactly a worldbeater, but probly should've gotten a lot more play than MAT.

Hopefully they change some players' positions and get a real free agent. Need real guys behind Robert and Tauchman who you almost expect to be injured. 

Probably a wise prediction. 

But again with labor uncertainty looming I just can't see JR allowing Getz to extend the payroll much (as if JR needed the excuse...) 

10 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Probably a wise prediction. 

But again with labor uncertainty looming I just can't see JR allowing Getz to extend the payroll much (as if JR needed the excuse...) 

I could see some cheaper, Josh Rojas price range type guys being effective options. Winker, Conforto, Austin Hayes; maybe Mullins, Bader or O'Hearn at slightly more money. One of O'Hearn or Bader and Mullins on 1 year deals would be a nice offseason to me. Mullins isn't great, but can hold down CF well enough if Robert is traded/never plays due to injury. But I bet O'Hearn and Bader sign for multiple years somewhere. Mullins on a 'prove it' deal seems possible though. Although I could see the Mets bringing him back or heading to a different team where he could be the opening day starter at CF. 

Bellinger or Tucker would be obvious choices who would help the team for years to come, but simply impractical. Even if the finances were right, I'd think they'd want to go to a contender.

1 hour ago, nrockway said:

I could see some cheaper, Josh Rojas price range type guys being effective options. Winker, Conforto, Austin Hayes; maybe Mullins, Bader or O'Hearn at slightly more money. One of O'Hearn or Bader and Mullins on 1 year deals would be a nice offseason to me. Mullins isn't great, but can hold down CF well enough if Robert is traded/never plays due to injury. But I bet O'Hearn and Bader sign for multiple years somewhere. Mullins on a 'prove it' deal seems possible though. Although I could see the Mets bringing him back or heading to a different team where he could be the opening day starter at CF. 

Bellinger or Tucker would be obvious choices who would help the team for years to come, but simply impractical. Even if the finances were right, I'd think they'd want to go to a contender.

One of O'Hearn or Bader and Mullins on 1 year deals would be a nice offseason to me. 

 

All three finished playing for contenders.

They won't talk to the White Sox until/unless it's a last possible resort.

Only Mullins might be in that boat based on?his finish with the Mets.

 

What does another Michael A. Ticket do for the Sox in Year 3 of a rebuild?

18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

One of O'Hearn or Bader and Mullins on 1 year deals would be a nice offseason to me. 

 

All three finished playing for contenders.

They won't talk to the White Sox until/unless it's a last possible resort.

Only Mullins might be in that boat based on?his finish with the Mets.

 

What does another Michael A. Ticket do for the Sox in Year 3 of a rebuild?

Exactly.  I’m not sure if any of those guys move the needle for the Sox regardless, even if they are willing to sign here.  At best, perhaps they add 2 wins and can be traded for a prospect that just barely makes it into the Sox top 30 list?  I guess that’s something.  Not sure I’d consider that a nice offseason, but I guess beggars can’t be choosers.

Edited October 16, 2025Oct 16 by WhiteSox2023

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m not sure if any of those guys move the needle for the Sox regardless, even if they are willing to sign here.  At best, perhaps they add 2 wins and can be traded for a prospect that just barely makes it into the Sox top 30 list?  I guess that’s something.  Not sure I’d consider that a nice offseason, but I guess beggars can’t be choosers.

That's just it.

There's no way in hell they add 5-6 guys to become truly competitive in the division.

At least two starting pitchers, two in the pen and two impactful hitters like Naylor or Okamoto.

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That's just it.

There's no way in hell they add 5-6 guys to become truly competitive in the division.

At least two starting pitchers, two in the pen and two impactful hitters like Naylor or Okamoto.

Agreed.  But a shot at 70+ wins and a vet or two to flip for a couple Single A relievers would look like a good season to Getz considering how horrible his past two seasons have been.  It’s all about perception!

On 10/15/2025 at 3:23 PM, wegner said:

When you suck at player evaluation everything that is inevitable

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12 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

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Chris Getz, ladies and gentlemen…

The wrong guy at the right time (for him, at least).

101-223 as Sox GM.

Dude could easily hit 300 losses before 175 wins in his GM career.  What a bum…

Edited October 17, 2025Oct 17 by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Chris Getz, ladies and gentlemen…

The wrong guy at the right time (for him, at least).

101-223 as Sox GM.

Dude could easily hit 300 losses before 175 wins in his GM career.  What a bum…

300 losses is almost a given don't you think?

On 10/15/2025 at 10:49 PM, WhiteSox2023 said:

Agreed.  But a shot at 70+ wins and a vet or two to flip for a couple Single A relievers would look like a good season to Getz considering how horrible his past two seasons have been.  It’s all about perception!

They can’t draft any higher than 10th in 2027 most likely, so they should at least try to put something together that is not embarrassing.