4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I'll be okay.

Well, not so outwardly. 

I mean, we literally live and learn.  It takes once of burning yourself on a stove to think "maybe I shouldn't do that again" and not "well I am sure others have burned themselves,  so why stop now?"

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Apparently WestEddy gets to dictate how long a friendship must last for someone to attend a friend’s funeral.  The guy got permission from his team to attend and also made sure his teammates would be okay with him missing the game to attend.  But since it wasn’t his mother’s funeral, he shouldn’t even think about attending?  Okay…

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I’m sure most players miss funerals of friends they’ve even known longer for their team.

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I’m sure most players miss funerals of friends they’ve even known longer for their team.

So?  Is that for any of us to judge?  It’s not like he just attended without permission from his team and the wife of his dead friend actually invited him.  Imagine someone telling you that you shouldn’t attend a friend’s funeral.  I mean what is going on here?

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7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So?  Is that for any of us to judge?  It’s not like he just attended without permission from his team and the wife of his dead friend actually invited him.  Imagine someone telling you that you shouldn’t attend a friend’s funeral.  I mean what is going on here?

Alright well agree to disagree then.

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So?  Is that for any of us to judge?  It’s not like he just attended without permission from his team and the wife of his dead friend actually invited him.  Imagine someone telling you that you shouldn’t attend a friend’s funeral.  I mean what is going on here?

I mean, if you are saying it is ok, you are quite literally judging. 

8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I mean, if you are saying it is ok, you are quite literally judging. 

His team and teammates essentially said it was okay because he was considerate enough to check with them since he would be missing a game.  However, I suspect if someone told you not to attend a funeral for a friend that you were invited to by the deceased's wife because you didn’t know each other long enough, you would rightly tell that person to F off.  🤣

If you think Matt Shaw attended that funeral for anything other than outside of baseball business interests you are a rube.

5 minutes ago, Nokona said:

If you think Matt Shaw attended that funeral for anything other than outside of baseball business interests you are a rube.

I guess I’m a rube.  What specifically did he receive to attend?  What business interests of his were impacted?

He clearly wants to be a conservative influencer as much as he wants to play baseball.

3 minutes ago, Nokona said:

He clearly wants to be a conservative influencer as much as he wants to play baseball.

Really?  Interesting considering he has no social media activity.  I would think he would have that in place already if he wanted to be an influencer of any sort.

 

30 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

His team and teammates essentially said it was okay because he was considerate enough to check with them since he would be missing a game.  However, I suspect if someone told you not to attend a funeral for a friend that you were invited to by the deceased's wife because you didn’t know each other long enough, you would rightly tell that person to F off.  🤣

To fair, he asked a total of 5 teammates and you have no idea what they said other than what Shaw is alluding to.  Just weird you are trying to spin this thing into this big positive thing that everyone was behind.  I assure you that’s not the case.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

To fair, he asked a total of 5 teammates and you have no idea what they said other than what Shaw is alluding to.  Just weird you are trying to spin this thing into this big positive thing that everyone was behind.  I assure you that’s not the case.

I’m not trying to spin anything.  The article I provided said that he had the support of the team as well as teammates.  Meanwhile, you stated that some teammates had a problem with it yet have not posted one article supporting your statement.  So who is spinning the story now?  Quite honestly, you can’t assure anything since you have provided zero evidence supporting your claim.

I hope he didn’t get paid for that game at least. I would say sure, you can leave. But by choosing to, you’re forfeiting that game’s salary.

21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

His team and teammates essentially said it was okay because he was considerate enough to check with them since he would be missing a game.  However, I suspect if someone told you not to attend a funeral for a friend that you were invited to by the deceased's wife because you didn’t know each other long enough, you would rightly tell that person to F off.  🤣

This gets sillier because we all know whose funeral it was, and pretending that's not a flash point for some of us here is provocative, itself. I missed my aunt's 70th birthday (huge deal in my family politic) because the cabinet shop I worked for was burglarized the night before, I lived the closest, and I met the police, and boarded up the point of entrance. I missed most of a cousin's wedding for work. I finally threw down and left to make drinks and dancing. My wife and I have juggled countless wakes and funerals around our work schedules. 

It was controversial at the time. Nobody makes anything about a player taking time off to be with their child for an operation, birth of a child, or family member's death. Tim Anderson played a whole season after his best friend from childhood was killed, and I remember the response in other online communities being mixed. 

 

 

Good Lord, how the f*** did this thread get derailed about a player that has never been linked to the Sox in any rumor mill as far as I know.....and for whom it would make little sense for the Sox to acquire since they'd have to give up a ton of their existing young talent to get him?

9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Quite honestly, you can’t assure anything since you have provided zero evidence supporting your claim

Oh hey aren’t you the guy who knows for a fact what Eloy’s motivation is for playing winter ball?

He attended a rally, not a funeral. 

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Apparently WestEddy gets to dictate how long a friendship must last for someone to attend a friend’s funeral.  The guy got permission from his team to attend and also made sure his teammates would be okay with him missing the game to attend.  But since it wasn’t his mother’s funeral, he shouldn’t even think about attending?  Okay…

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I get to dictate how I feel about a person's commitment to their job. I'm probably a workaholic, so there's that. I recognize my politics are different from a lot of athletes I root for. You posted a blurb from Keith Law criticizing Shaw's coachability. I would think that being very present in your kids' life regularly trumps going to a neighbor's rock concert/memorial, and practically every ballplayer sacrifices the former on a yearly basis. 

37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Really?  Interesting considering he has no social media activity.  I would think he would have that in place already if he wanted to be an influencer of any sort.

 

Rube confirmed

14 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Good Lord, how the f*** did this thread get derailed about a player that has never been linked to the Sox in any rumor mill as far as I know.....and for whom it would make little sense for the Sox to acquire since they'd have to give up a ton of their existing young talent to get him?

Seriously. We need @caulfield12 back to keep the thread on topic.

3 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Seriously. We need @caulfield12 back to keep the thread on topic.

NO

6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m not trying to spin anything.  The article I provided said that he had the support of the team as well as teammates.  Meanwhile, you stated that some teammates had a problem with it yet have not posted one article supporting your statement.  So who is spinning the story now?  Quite honestly, you can’t assure anything since you have provided zero evidence supporting your claim.

Buddy…just come out and say what this is all about.  You’re entitled to whatever political views you desire, but trying to use a fluff piece from MLB.com that only cites the player is question and pretending that is somehow proof that everyone in that clubhouse was supportive is hilarious to me.  These are professional athletes, some of these guys miss the birth of their own children if the games matter.  There were certainly people in that clubhouse who were upset by Shaw’s decision.  If you can’t admit that, then you are clearly biased in this matter. 

9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Seriously. We need @caulfield12 back to keep the thread on topic.

He needs to spin a tale about a Korean player from 1973. 

10 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Seriously. We need @caulfield12 back to keep the thread on topic.

Sorry, he’s over posting on SoxMachine while he serves out his sentence

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Sorry, he’s over posting on SoxMachine while he serves out his sentence

Huh