Ducksnort Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, almagest said: If Murakami ends up with 2.1 fWAR and a 118 wRC+ I’d be pretty happy. That’s around an .800 OPS which compared to Vaughn looks like Big Frank is over there again. What did Milwaukee do to unlock Vaughn's potential? Did they change anything about his swing? Did he just need a change of scenery? It's pretty wild how he completely turned into the hitter we all hoped he would be as soon as he was traded, and then sustained it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Robert slashed .298/.352/.456 in the second half across 125 plate appearances. Seems totally reasonable to expect that next season (if he’s healthy). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, nrockway said: Robert slashed .298/.352/.456 in the second half across 125 plate appearances. Seems totally reasonable to expect that next season (if he’s healthy). Not reasonable at all considering his last two full seasons, healthy or not. His most recent two seasons of 856 plate appearances have been BAD. Edited 14 hours ago by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted 14 hours ago Author Share Posted 14 hours ago 29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Not reasonable at all considering his last two full seasons, healthy or not. His most recent two seasons of 856 plate appearances have been BAD. His xwOBA was .322 last year which is slightly above league average. Not sure how anyone would call that BAD for a CF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: His xwOBA was .322 last year which is slightly above league average. Not sure how anyone would call that BAD for a CF. I prefer to look at the actual stats he finished with over the past two seasons. Edited 6 hours ago by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 hours ago, nrockway said: Robert slashed .298/.352/.456 in the second half across 125 plate appearances. Seems totally reasonable to expect that next season (if he’s healthy). 125 PAs in half a season sounds about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukakke Appling Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago We really have devolved into an eristic society. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said: We really have devolved into an eristic society. "people ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball: I tell them I stare at the screen and argue on Soxtalk." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Not reasonable at all considering his last two full seasons, healthy or not. His most recent two seasons of 856 plate appearances have been BAD. Robert hasn't been BAD. He's put up around 1.4 bWAR in about 100 games in each of the last two seasons, when stretched over 162 games is about 2 WAR, which is an average major leaguer. And he does have the ceiling of a 4-5 WAR player, if somebody can get him to tap into it again. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could replicate what he did for a month's worth of games just this last year. If he worked through a hitch in his swing, or started reacting different to the way he's pitched, he doesn't decide in each at-bat he is the guy who OPSed .540 in August of 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Robert hasn't been BAD. He's put up around 1.4 bWAR in about 100 games in each of the last two seasons, when stretched over 162 games is about 2 WAR, which is an average major leaguer. And he does have the ceiling of a 4-5 WAR player, if somebody can get him to tap into it again. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could replicate what he did for a month's worth of games just this last year. If he worked through a hitch in his swing, or started reacting different to the way he's pitched, he doesn't decide in each at-bat he is the guy who OPSed .540 in August of 2024. I was just talking about his bat, hence mentioning his PA over the past two seasons. His defense is usually good. And the reason you can’t just stretch out his WAR over 162 games is because he is always due for an injury each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I was just talking about his bat, hence mentioning his PA over the past two seasons. His defense is usually good. And the reason you can’t just stretch out his WAR over 162 games is because he is always due for an injury each season. Stretching for the sake of argument. He plays at the rate of an average major league player, even if it's just for 2/3 of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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