Sunday at 02:42 AM3 days 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: I won't be waiting at all. This rebuild suits me just fine. I'm not the one hankering for everyone to be fired so we can throw away all the advancements they've made in the last 2 years and start all over again from scratch. Like it or not when Ishbia takes over as is the case the vast majority of the time, highly successful people want their own individuals that they have hired and who are loyal to them in place. Unless Getz, Boyer et al do something miraculous in the next two-three seasons odds are they and most, if not all, of the Sox organization on the baseball side will be unemployed. And if they continue to lose 90-100 games for the next two-three seasons you can bet your life that is exactly what is going to happen.
Sunday at 03:04 AM3 days 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Got some good divisional competition in KC and CLE (minus Kwan) for worst mlb outfields. By the time we finally stop rooting for everyone to be fired and a new rebuild initiated, those cities won't even exist anymore.
Sunday at 03:07 AM3 days 23 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Like it or not when Ishbia takes over as is the case the vast majority of the time, highly successful people want their own individuals that they have hired and who are loyal to them in place. Unless Getz, Boyer et al do something miraculous in the next two-three seasons odds are they and most, if not all, of the Sox organization on the baseball side will be unemployed. And if they continue to lose 90-100 games for the next two-three seasons you can bet your life that is exactly what is going to happen. I believe he's already done something miraculous. Unless Ishbia wants his own miracle. LOL. Getz is fine. Doesn't seem to have a huge ego, putting smart people in place. By the time Ish takes over, they might just kick him up to President of BO, and promote one of his smarter minions to GM, if JR/fam doesn't do it first.
Sunday at 03:25 AM3 days 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I believe he's already done something miraculous. Unless Ishbia wants his own miracle. LOL. Getz is fine. Doesn't seem to have a huge ego, putting smart people in place. By the time Ish takes over, they might just kick him up to President of BO, and promote one of his smarter minions to GM, if JR/fam doesn't do it first. "Fine" isn't good enough...not when all four organizations they're competing with have equal or better under 26 talent. The only way to possibly draw ahead is with the perfect two draft picks in July. Murakami still doesn't look locked in...it will probably take him some time to adjust, just like it did with Ohtani Suzuki and then Yoshida has basically gone backwards.
Sunday at 04:32 AM3 days 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: "Fine" isn't good enough...not when all four organizations they're competing with have equal or better under 26 talent. The only way to possibly draw ahead is with the perfect two draft picks in July. Murakami still doesn't look locked in...it will probably take him some time to adjust, just like it did with Ohtani Suzuki and then Yoshida has basically gone backwards. "Under 26 talent" listicles are a ridiculous measure. Getz is doing a good job hiring competent people. "Fine" is fine. Relax.
Sunday at 11:46 AM3 days 8 hours ago, WestEddy said: I believe he's already done something miraculous. Unless Ishbia wants his own miracle. LOL. Getz is fine. Doesn't seem to have a huge ego, putting smart people in place. By the time Ish takes over, they might just kick him up to President of BO, and promote one of his smarter minions to GM, if JR/fam doesn't do it first. Maybe for the White Sox it is, but putting together a team that might not lose 100 games is far from miraculous in the normal world.
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Sunday at 01:53 PM2 days Isn't it more "miraculous" by Sox historical standards to lose that many games over a three year period? Sox Team Record (1901-2025): 9654-9714 That's pretty much the textbook definition of "mired in mediocrity," but the team still could be at least two years away from that. "Miraculous" is Curt Cignetti at Indiana 1980 Olympic Hockey team Hoosiers "The Rookie" Jim Morris story "Searching for Sugarman" Rodriguez story
Sunday at 04:38 PM2 days 3 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Isn't it more "miraculous" by Sox historical standards to lose that many games over a three year period? Sox Team Record (1901-2025): 9654-9714 That's pretty much the textbook definition of "mired in mediocrity," but the team still could be at least two years away from that. "Miraculous" is Curt Cignetti at Indiana 1980 Olympic Hockey team Hoosiers "The Rookie" Jim Morris story "Searching for Sugarman" Rodriguez story IIRC the Sox lifetime record after 1967 was around 250 games over .500 mainly because of the 17 straight winning seasons during the GO GO era along with the first 20 years of the franchise, the 20s, 30s and 40s were bad but nothing as bad as the last 3 years with a utterly disgraceful record of 161-325, a whopping 164 games under .500, thanks JR. Edited Sunday at 05:01 PM2 days by The Mighty Mite
Sunday at 05:53 PM2 days Being optimistic, sounds a bit more precautionary and less "I felt a ligament tear"?
Sunday at 06:26 PM2 days 32 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Being optimistic, sounds a bit more precautionary and less "I felt a ligament tear"? Yeah. Nobody's talking about hearing that "pop" all the way from the dugout.
Sunday at 07:14 PM2 days 1 hour ago, Autumn Dreamin said: Being optimistic, sounds a bit more precautionary and less "I felt a ligament tear"? Sounds like its not a large tear. It will be a rehab and throwing program mostly likely to see how it responds.
Monday at 01:08 PM1 day On 3/14/2026 at 11:32 PM, WestEddy said: "Under 26 talent" listicles are a ridiculous measure. Getz is doing a good job hiring competent people. "Fine" is fine. Relax. Every time this discussion occurs on this forum (often, but becoming less so), I think about how David Stearns has an unlimited budget and built-in talent and couldn’t make the playoffs and might’ve made the playoffs if he made the exact same moves for the pitching staff that Getz did. I dunno what people expect out of a baseball GM honestly. To swing all the bats I guess. edit: oh yeah, opened this thread because I was hoping Vasil might crack the rotation to begin the season. Hopefully he’s just day-to-day and this injury doesn’t derail that possibility. Edited Monday at 01:10 PM1 day by nrockway
Monday at 02:20 PM1 day On 3/14/2026 at 10:04 PM, WestEddy said: By the time we finally stop rooting for everyone to be fired and a new rebuild initiated, those cities won't even exist anymore. hahahahahahahahaha. The ability to attempt to recast being satisfied with horrible baseball and baseball decisions as some sort of asset is uncanny.
Monday at 05:22 PM1 day 4 hours ago, nrockway said: Every time this discussion occurs on this forum (often, but becoming less so), I think about how David Stearns has an unlimited budget and built-in talent and couldn’t make the playoffs and might’ve made the playoffs if he made the exact same moves for the pitching staff that Getz did. I dunno what people expect out of a baseball GM honestly. To swing all the bats I guess. edit: oh yeah, opened this thread because I was hoping Vasil might crack the rotation to begin the season. Hopefully he’s just day-to-day and this injury doesn’t derail that possibility. He couldn't predict that the chemistry would be so terrible...to the point where half the team had to be cast aside. And Soto/Lindor still don't mesh well together at all. And now Lindor also lost Edwin Diaz. Both stars want to lead...but Lindor was already the man for that franchise. Having watched the closeness of all those national WBC teams in recent days...it could just be personality conflicts, it also could be based on PR vs. DR and not being from the same "tribe." Remember all the White Sox personality conflicts between the Cubans, other Latin players like Jimenez, and TA was by himself pretty much...vis a vis some of the white players on those 2022-23 teams (Graveman/Kelly/Steak & Potatoes) and then Kimbrel was on an island by himself too??? Edited Monday at 05:27 PM1 day by caulfield12
Monday at 08:07 PM1 day 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Remember all the White Sox personality conflicts between the Cubans, other Latin players like Jimenez, and TA was by himself pretty much...vis a vis some of the white players on those 2022-23 teams (Graveman/Kelly/Steak & Potatoes) and then Kimbrel was on an island by himself too??? But that was Getz's fault because the White Sox didn't develop their players to like each other, and besides, the asst. Development guy actually makes all the decisions. Where's the "why isn't anything ever the GM's fault" guy?
Monday at 08:26 PM1 day 18 minutes ago, WestEddy said: But that was Getz's fault because the White Sox didn't develop their players to like each other, and besides, the asst. Development guy actually makes all the decisions. Where's the "why isn't anything ever the GM's fault" guy? Nothing is Getz' fault. Why would somebody be so crazy to put any blame on the player development guy when top prospects fail to live up to their billing?
Monday at 08:45 PM1 day 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Nothing is Getz' fault. Why would somebody be so crazy to put any blame on the player development guy when top prospects fail to live up to their billing? It's all a part of the plan. We are just too dumb to see it.
Yesterday at 12:24 AM1 day 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Nothing is Getz' fault. Why would somebody be so crazy to put any blame on the player development guy when top prospects fail to live up to their billing? That was all the responsibility of amateur and pro scouting for signing/drafting/trading for the wrong players lol... Blame the likes of Hostetler and Haber and JR "meddling" as well. Sounds pretty familiar... Take credit for all successes, and throw everyone involved with perceived failures under the bus. Edited yesterday at 12:26 AM1 day by caulfield12
Yesterday at 02:17 AM1 day On 3/15/2026 at 5:28 AM, PaleAleSox said: Every god damn thread turns into the same thing. You'd think it wasn't a rebuild by the way everyone is concerned about the losses. The problem with the last rebuild is they didnt lose enough and never got top picks unless you count Madrigal and Vaughn. They also had less veteran guys to sell off because they dropped so precipitously that no one was worth anything. Anderson, Moncada, Kopech, Eloy, Giolito all went downhill in a short period of time. JR was spending a lot more per season then even during the rebuild so Hahn would spend it on Melky Cabrera and others so they lost 100 once. Also there was no draft lottery but the Sox got the #1 pick this year but have had much better drafts although its still kind of early to say for sure. But even after playing 20 rookies last year they still had 5 guys in the top 100 and a couple more just outside it and also Antonacci who sprang up pretty fast. The Astros lost 106, 107 & 111 from 2011-2013 then 92 in 2014. After that they started making the playoffs regularly. They drafted very well and unlike the Sox they didn't have to rebuild their international connections. Starting in 2017 they made the playoffs 8 straight years and were constantly in the ALCS and won 2 World Series Edited yesterday at 02:18 AM1 day by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
Yesterday at 02:28 AM1 day 5 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Nothing is Getz' fault. Why would somebody be so crazy to put any blame on the player development guy when top prospects fail to live up to their billing? No one can say for sure how much power Getz had in that position. To automatically assign him blame is just getting angry because he convinced JR by being cheap and inexperienced that he wanted the job. You'd think you'd be able to see how different things are now but if all you can see is the losses and Getz had a key position under a malfunctioning front office then that's all you're going to see until the record gets respectable. It's already trending that way but they started a lot lower that 2024 season. . They had to wait until 2025 to really get some of the young guys in the lineup. I wonder if Houston fans were this blind. During the Sox 1st rebuild everyone was gung ho even though they left the same guys in charge who screwed it up in the 1st place.
Yesterday at 02:47 AM1 day 16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: No one can say for sure how much power Getz had in that position. To automatically assign him blame is just getting angry because he convinced JR by being cheap and inexperienced that he wanted the job. You'd think you'd be able to see how different things are now but if all you can see is the losses and Getz had a key position under a malfunctioning front office then that's all you're going to see until the record gets respectable. It's already trending that way but they started a lot lower that 2024 season. . They had to wait until 2025 to really get some of the young guys in the lineup. I wonder if Houston fans were this blind. During the Sox 1st rebuild everyone was gung ho even though they left the same guys in charge who screwed it up in the 1st place. I'm to the point where I think we all have to admit it was a baller move for Getz to position himself to get promoted to remake the entire org.
23 hours ago23 hr 9 hours ago, WestEddy said: I'm to the point where I think we all have to admit it was a baller move for Getz to position himself to get promoted to remake the entire org. Why don't you ever give JR his due. He's the only owner who ever would have made Chris Getz GM, so according to all of your posts, he got it right.
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